Re: [Killietalk] Breather bag question

["Karen Perdue" <windamyr at peoplepc_com>]

I simply add Amquel to the water before I start the drip(private fish from
private sources), but in the store I use the 32 feet per second method<G>
Those fish come in and the water is simply nasty, they're better off getting
out of it as fast as I can possibly get them out. Especially if there are
fish that have died in transit, I want the living guys in the tanks ASAP

Karen
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "john nicholson" <nicholsons_discus at yahoo_com>
To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Breather bag question


> The trouble comes in when the ph in the bag has become very low.  The
> ammonia has become non-toxic.  You start adding new water to the old
> you raise the ph and the ammonia again becomes toxic and you cook the
> fish.  I personnaly fast all of the fish that I ship for at least 24
> hours and on the large discus I fast then for at least 3 days.  This
> should reduce the ammonia produced dramatically but I still prefer that
> my customers use the open and blop method.  I have never had it cause a
> problem.
>
> -john
>
> --- Scott Davis <unclescott at prodigy_net> wrote:
> > John, I'm sure there are times when your approach is
> > wisest, like when a bag is opened and the scent of the
> > water is so foul, it slaps you in the face. It becomes
> > a priority to just get the fish out of the stuff.
> > Surely we can get away with that more often that we
> > realize.
> >
> > Brad Higgins used to call that, "acclimation at 32
> > feet per second."
> >
> > The rest of the time, I'd still rather adjust the fish
> > more carefully. Too careful is better than not careful
> > enough. Hemorrhaging gills, from an abrupt and drastic
> > shift in water, may never be noticed. When the fish
> > takes sick or dies several days later, we may blame
> > the seller for that mystery death and it wasn't their
> > fault that the killie's immune system was compromised.
> >
> > All the best,
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > --- john nicholson <nicholsons_discus at yahoo_com>
> > wrote:
> > > Ok here is something that is sure to draw some
> > > responses......As long
> > > as the water is warmer and of a higher ph(should not
> > > be a problem since
> > > the ph of the water in the bag has been falling due
> > > to the waste
> > > products of the fish) you just open the bag and dump
> > > the fish into a
> > > net and put them in the tank.  Simple, your done and
> > > the fish is fine.
> > >
> > >
> > > -john
> > >
> > > John Nicholson
> > > Caddo Mills, TX
> > >
> > >
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