[Killietalk] re-visited again . . . is that 2 revisited?

["Mike Jacobs" <mjacobs2 at tampabay_rr.com>]

I just spoke with Bruce Sanders (a very nice man to sit and answer all of my 
questions) of Sanders Brine shrimp Company (http://www.sandersbshrimp.com). 
With a few exceptions he reiterated what was put in the last note from me to 
the Killietalk and nothing varied drastically.



1)      Brine Shrimp should be kept frozen if not being directly used.  It 
should NOT be left out in the "heat" of the house if not being used . . . 
explained later.

2)      Even if you are a frequent user (hobbyist) . . . even say a can a 
month you should take out what you need for say a week or two and re-freeze 
the rest of the can until you need more.

3)      Moisture is the big killer! Numero Uno!!!  It does for a fact gets 
on each cyst, as has been mentioned by now several people, and opening a 
frozen can is the BEST way to get the moisture on each cysts in the can 
(there are other ways as well) and actually starts the hatching process . . 
. salt or not . . . and once that hatching starts "it's all over".  The 
cysts either hatches or it dies.

4)      The refrigerator is really no big deal after opening the can but you 
should take out what you want for 1-2 weeks and then if you wish put that in 
the refrigerator in a closed container or zip-lock baggie.

5)      The second biggest killer of cysts is heat.  I asked him to be more 
specific on "heat" (how hot is heat?) and he said that 80-85 degrees can 
start to deteriorate the cysts "in as little as 2-3 days".  You better read 
that again!  I asked him if he really meant 2-3 days and he re-affirmed what 
he said.  I asked Bruce then that if the store I bought the cans from had 
the cans on the shelf for say weeks at a time would I be better off buying 
from him on-line or if the store was air conditioned and 75 degrees was it 
ok . . . he hesitated a second and said as a hobbyist you should buy cans 
that have never sat on the shelf of even an air-conditioned store.  He 
obviously didn't want to bad-mouth his store customers but he wasn't going 
to dodge the question either.

6)      Cans of cysts stored in 90 degree heat for more than a day or two 
isn't gonna fly . . . the garage story.  Maybe they were stroing the empty 
CANS.

7)      He really emphasized as much as he could to not take out more than 
you handle for say a week or two.  I got the impression that a week or two 
was the point at which cysts will actually start to deteriorate . . . 
especially, he said in a state like Florida with the, sometimes, 90+% 
humidity.



Well, there you have what I found out about brine cysts today.  I am going 
to change my method of dealing with the cysts . . . I used to do EVERYTHING 
wrong . . . almost!  I froze the cans but as I needed them I took them right 
from the freezer and open the can and started using the eggs and put the can 
in the refrigerator.  That's not such a problem for the first 2 weeks but 
after that they say the decline starts . . .I have noticed that (bottom 
1/3 - 1/4 of the can is not so good) and several other folks in the SKS have 
noticed that decline as well.  We had a 1 hour discussion of the way to 
Normandin's house last year in the van.



I have maybe left out some minor things but between the three people I 
talked to I now have the up-to-date poop and will here-to-fore do things 
differently.



Isn't discussion great?????  Ask any questions . . . I may have left 
something very important out that you might want to know!



Mike

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