From: "Kray, Edd" <Edd_Kray at rf.doe.gov>
Reply-To: killifish discussion list <killietalk at aka_org>
To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
Subject: [Killietalk] North Olmstead Aquarium
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:04:29 -0700
Hey Al, Is North Olmstead Aq. still there? I'd heard it closed up.
I remember round about 1975 walking in there and finding a tank of
unidentified pastel-colored Rivulus. The price tag was 25 cents apiece.
No-one knew what they were. It wasn't until the 80's that someone else
brought them in as Rivulis Agilae and sold them for $100 a pair that I
found out.
What ever happened to those great old stores that brought things in
direct from overseas rather than relying on local wholesalers.
N. Olmstead was great. More of an aquatic greenhouse than an aquarium.
He raised all his own Amazon swords and crypts and when the old Dutch
guy sold you one, he'd spend 15 minutes picking out the best specimen
from his dozens of flats.
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From: killietalk-bounces+edd_kray=rf.doe.gov at aka.org
[mailto:killietalk-bounces+edd_kray=rf.doe.gov at aka.org] On Behalf Of Al
Anderson
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:54 AM
To: killifish discussion list
Subject: RE: [Killietalk] RE: Room heating systems
Paradise Aquarium of NY, Beldt's Aquarium of MO., North Olmstead
Aquarium of
north Olmstead, Jeff Kuklehan and Paradise Gardens of Mass. And Duane
Wake
of Ft. Wayne Indiana. All have tanks heated by hot water running under
their
tanks. That larger places had coal or oil burning furnaces heating the
water
to run through 1 1/2 iron pipes. North Olmstead had the pipes running
under
their vats in the back.
killiman at iquest_net
Al Anderson
6246 N Rural
Indianapolis IN 46220
317 253 2170
-----Original Message-----
From: killietalk-bounces at aka_org [mailto:killietalk-bounces at aka_org]On
Behalf Of Koran, David HQ02
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:45 AM
To: killietalk at aka_org
Subject: [Killietalk] RE: Room heating systems
I must apologize for not reading all of the threads but I was curious if
anyone has looked at or tried a dedicated hot water heating system. I
have
a
large unheated "room" with windows and a couple of skylights. It has a
thermostated fan that kicks in at 90oF in the summer and I use the
"room"
for
all of my summer breeding for Cyprinodons and other temperate killies.
In
the winter, even when the temperature drops below zero all I have every
seen
a skin of ice on a few tanks. Now that I have a lot of water mass in
the
room/conservatory the low end is now the upper 30's. A few miles away
one
of
my former fellow commuters has a greenhouse about half the size of my
conservatory which they use to culture orchids. Their requirement is
keeping
the temperature at a low of about 50oF. In both cases, on most days you
get
solar assistance so you are really looking at night heating. What they
did
was get a standard (probably mid-size one) hot water heater and run it
through some baseboard heating units and their thermostat control a
small
circulating pump. I know this is approaching a standard heating
installation
but they said they built the system themselves and that the electricity
cost
to operate it was not too great. So you can sort of run the thing off
your
current hot water heater like I think Duane Wake is doing of get a small
hot
water heater or something a little large to meet your needs. The rest
is
just how much plumbing you want to do. Has anyone built a heating
assist
unit like this?
Dave Koran
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