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[Killietalk] Orestias
Gentlemen,
You will also find useful information in www.fishbase.org and
www.killi-data.org. Huber lists O. crawfordi, O. forgeti, O. ispi, O.
luteus and O. mulleri as widespread, O. cuvieri as probably extinct and
all the others as locally endangered.
Hope this helps and sorry for the long post
João Gomes
>>>Thank you, I guess I need to re-subscribe to Mr. Huber's "Killie
Data" again, (I encourage everyone here to do so) there is such a wealth
of information on this website!! If you are curious, just Google-up
"Killie data".......
I'am not an expert in Orestias, but I can give you some "second hand"
information about Orestias "in Germany". In 2000, the convention of the
DKG took place in Hamburg.
Professor Villwock was one of the speakers, and he told us a lot of
their work with this killies, and he displayed some living Orestias in
an aquarium. I sure cannot remember everything, but it was obvious that
it is impossible to nearly every "normal" aquarist, to maintain
Orestias, no idea to think about breading. At the Aquarium of the
Hamburg University they had a special room for this fishes, which was
(or is?) cooled down to a pleasant 12° C ( about 53° F) and which should
only be entered very carefully from only some people - he said, if the
fishes were disturbed, it could take up to two weeks, befor they show
normal behavior again. A lot of their living seems like slow-motion...
The identification of the different species was not easy, for the some
older desriptions are based on the oder of the scales, or on the missing
of scales at parts of the body. After first having the possibility to
look for living specimens over a longer time, they recogniced, that the
scales change during their lives, one fish beeing in the scale-order of
different species as young, middle-old or adult. Very confusing... In
additon to all this problems, the fishes I saw looked a lot like
oversized Notho-females. Not very colorfull, not very interesting from
shape of body or fins...
>>>Fantastic! Thank you, Hubert. Do you know if the Aquarium in Hamburg
is able to spawn them and keep their collection viable in the long term?
Im pretty sure, fishes of this genus will not be a great sucess for the
NEW&RARE SPECIES COMMITTEE.
>>>Yes, I agree. Still there are hobbyists who specialize in such
challenging and non-commercial fish. I am responding to specific
questions/requests for Rare fishes from our membership, and since I am
contemplating a trip to Peru (still the fares are bluddy high from here
to Lima) in July or August, the Lake is high on my list of places to
visit. So you would need a chiller, and lots of big, heavily planted
tanks, and their own separate room. Sounds like a snap! :O) Do you
suppose anyone has tried to pond-culture them in Germany?
Best,
Brian Perkins
West Linn, OR
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