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Re: [Killietalk] Hobby & Conservation?; was Re: annualism
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From: "Ken Combs" <KCombs at mergerx_net>
To: <killietalk at aka_org>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 7:54 PM
Subject: [Killietalk] Hobby & Conservation?; was Re: annualism
> On 24 Jan 2005 15:17:59, Joseph S wrote:
>>If long incubation ticks people off(I admit that it can be a bit
>>frustrating waiting for 5 months with a supposedly empty bag of
>>eggs) they could stick with species with naturally) shorter
>>I don't see that as a reason to alter the natural "behavior" of the
> Actually, I can "dig it"...(personally I understand the impetus behind
> that snippet), but...
> Joe, et all. After having killies on several occasions and now
> thoroughly qualifying as a sick "addict", took me a while to get past
> what I perceived as a "standard bearer" attitude that I observed as
> somewhat pervasive in this specialized hobby segment ("standard bearer"
> equating to a hobbyist defining a narrow range of "allowable"
> tolerances/deviations for this particular hobby segment as a whole),
> this is regardless of whether these "standards" are positive or
> negative, the "enforcement therein is where the "fun meter" redlines...
> All I'm saying here is a newbie/non-enthusiast may not fully understand
> the gamut of the "things" that attract many of us to killies in the 1st
> place. For many folks (or casual hobbyists), on the surface, it appears
> to be the "pretty colors", but as the rest of us drill down past the
> behavior/husbandry/breeding aspects and get into the
> zoological/taxonomic/conservation aspects, we start venturing into that
> "nether world" which broadens the scope of this hobby towards a range of
> somewhat vague if not "loftier goals" (of perhaps saving the world "one
> fish at a time")
> ...Shoot, good chance this "nether world" may be outside the
> entertainment "value add" for many...
> Short version:
> "The you should not have this fish unless...", "or you can't do that
> if...", or the "perhaps you should do something else", or any of the
> other numerous "narrowing" cliche's I've uncovered here on KT (and other
> killie slanted venues) could be a lil "oversaturated" to the point of
> negative impact (at least in so far as "aquarium" aspects of it are
> concerned)...Heck, I can appreciate the plethora of "real world
> situations", but are we not mixing "hobby with science" and
> "conservation with hobby", and "domestic animals" with conservation"?
> IMO, what good are "imprisoned fish" to the "bigger picture "if their
> "old jobsite" is now a shopping mall? (or whatever) Just worth
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