RE: [Killietalk] Alternate vinegars for vinegar eels, was Dried Vinegar Eels

["Al Anderson" <killiman at iquest_net>]

Chris now run it again without the apple and use common household sugar
instead and see what you get.


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-----Original Message-----
From: killietalk-bounces at aka_org [mailto:killietalk-bounces at aka_org]On
Behalf Of Erny May
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 2:23 AM
To: killifish discussion list
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Alternate vinegars for vinegar eels,was Dried
Vinegar Eels

Chris,
What ratio of vinegar to water did you use?
Erny



----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" <cgraseck at optonline_net>
To: "'killifish discussion list'" <killietalk at aka_org>
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 4:37 PM
Subject: [Killietalk] Alternate vinegars for vinegar eels,was Dried Vinegar
Eels


> Mike Jacobs experiment reminded me that I set up my own experiment last
> month.  Somewhere around the 27th of October someone with an allergy to
> apples (sorry, I lost the original post and don't remember who) asked
> about using an alternate for cider vinegar to culture vinegar eels.  On
> the 28th of October I set up a little experiment to see if any of the
> other vinegars would work as well as cider vinegar.  I set up four 26 oz
> jars each half filled with vinegar and topped off with water.  Each jar
> received a slice of pealed and cored apple.  The jars were inoculated
> with 2 mL of a mixture of cider vinegar, mother of vinegar, and vinegar
> eels from an old culture.  This inoculant was thoroughly mixed prior to
> being added to the cultures.  Four different vinegars were used.  I
> managed to find red wine vinegar, malt vinegar, rice vinegar and cider
> vinegar in the cupboard. The cider vinegar was set up as my control.
>
> I checked the cultures today and the results look good for our friend
> with the allergy. As of today the malt vinegar has by far the most worms
> growing in it.  They are literally crawling up the sides of the jar and
> clumping. The rice vinegar is second in its number of worms followed by
> the red wine vinegar and finally the cider vinegar.  It looks like I may
> need to change my culture methods.  No attempt to accurately measure the
> number of worms was made but it was easy to see the difference in each
> of these four jars.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: killietalk-bounces+cgraseck=optonline_net at aka.org
> [mailto:killietalk-bounces+cgraseck=optonline_net at aka.org] On Behalf Of
> Chris
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:53 PM
> To: 'killifish discussion list'
> Subject: RE: [Killietalk] Dried Vinegar Eels
>
> I'm going to set up a red wine vinegar, vinegar eel culture this evening
> and see how it goes.  I'll let the list know how it is doing in a month
> or so.  I'll set up a control with my usual cider vinegar as well.  This
> way I can report back with comparative data.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: killietalk-bounces+cgraseck=optonline_net at aka.org
> [mailto:killietalk-bounces+cgraseck=optonline_net at aka.org] On Behalf Of
> Wayne Morrow
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:25 PM
> To: killifish discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Dried Vinegar Eels
>
>>Natural cider vinegar is normally used.  Red wine may also work.
>
> Don't they normally grow in sour wine vats?
>
> Wayne Morrow
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