[Killietalk] Re: proper feeding (was: Re:Name the Fish Ailment)

["Kenneth Combs" <KCombs at mergerx_net>]

Hello, I'm going somewhat off on a tangent somewhat, but...
...in a message Fri, 5 Nov 2004 11:20:49 +0100, Tyrone Genade
<tgenade at gmail_com> said: 

>Many small *Aphyosemion* and *Fundulopanchax* also suffer problems if
fed too much bloodworm etc... It is 
>important to get some roughage into your fish....
And...

>...As soon as I started fasting my *gardneri* I stopped having dropsy
diseased fish. I also found my *Nothos* 
>and SAAs to be fitter and more productive. They also lived longer.

Hmmm, that is interesting: 
The last recent thread : "re:Name the Fish Ailment" was kind of
enlightening; here is some support to that: due to seasonality, I
recently switched from "wild" red worms to indoor raised white worms;
well, I'm sure "white worm/bloodworm" diet "might be" "OK" for my
younger FP's, but 2 of my "older female FP's" got dropsy immediately.
The above reply Tyrone posted is VERY interesting....before, I did not
have any "issues" till I started feeding white worms raised in "magic
worm bedding"...correlation?...I wonder...never dawned on me till
recently where all this "sand" was coming from in my bare bottom
tanks...("wild" earthworms?), I'm wondering if the ingested "sand" from
those wild worms helped digestion, hmmm...or alternatively; perhaps the
"high fat" white worm diet plus the "artificial" (soiless) bedding was
"detrimental" (or less desirable) I'm betting wild fish get a lot of
this "incidental" roughage in their daily adventures....maybe I'll plop
the W-Worms in potting soil and see what shakes (I just hate the added
dirt in the tanks, oh well...)

Speaking of roughage (and another tangent); (Daphnia) unsolicited tid
bit:
I almost gave up on sweet potatoes and yeast thing to feed daphnia
(along with the high probability of a crashes using those foods),so I
turned back to supplementing the cultures with green water daily
(allegedly more bothersome & slower cultures)...Usually green water
powered using only "sunlight" is a 7-10 day wait for the culture to
"turn" (pea soup level)...anyway, I couldn't find the typical "Miracle
Grow" to boost the green water cultures, so I turned to a pinch plain
ole "Green Light Stump Remover" per bottle(from the days when I made
that "PMDD" stuff)...Well, I'll be darned if the straight "Nitrogen"
didn't cut the time in 1/2(NTM the lower angle fall Sun isn't hurting
neither)! I'm not sure what else algae needs, but in my situation using
"Stump Remover" was a windfall....Now the bottles go from "daiquiri" to
"limeade" to "pea soup" in 3-5 days. The time saved on the green water
makes "quick turning" a few tubs of daphnia indoors worth it (mixing in
some Pulex helped a lot!)...I'm gonna add some "Fleet enema" and see
what happens next (basically phosphate)

Heck, this is "easy money" and a nice lil rotation!: dirty killie tank
water---> 1/2 gets flushed, 1/2 to coke bottle---> window----> daphnia
tank---> back to killie tank (with daphnia)......Basically turning
"Dirty tank water" into food (for almost nothing, NTM, a nice lil
potential "side business" with the $1ea "golden mystery snails". these
have a nice "symbiosis" with the daphnia culture) 




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