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Re: [Killietalk] Cool Down!

E-mail I sent to Peter Tirbak at 11:11 P.M. EST

Hello,

            The recent discussions going on in killietalk about the election
info has really gotten out of hand. I guess I may have contributed to it
some. I am willing to take the election info and break it down and produce a
report for the BOT. I am doing this in hopes of appeasing some of the
membership, who seem to want the info but don't want to offer any help. I
would be more than happy to do this.



Lonny Langione     AKA #09035
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Erny May" <emay1 at wi_rr.com>
To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Cool Down!


> Then why don't you do that? The reason I picked up on all of this was the
> lambasting that the Cap'n got when he raised some concerns. Apparently
> YOU are not reading some of the other postings because it seems that
> the Cap'n is not the only one expressing them. I am hardly "raising hell"
> about
> this; I'm just not willing to be bullied into silence. I am glad you were
on
> the
> school board for ten years and I'm glad that you enjoyed every minute of
it.
> I don't have to prove anything to you since this is an open discussion and
> we
> can express our thoughts and concerns. If you want to chair something, go
> for it!
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "L. Langione" <lonlangione at suscom_net>
> To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 9:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Cool Down!
>
>
> > Apparently you are not reading any of the other posts. People are not
> > interested in this topic in this forum. If all 1100 members want the
> > information, then they could write the BOT and ask for it. You are the
one
> > who seems to be raising all the hell about it, and are not able to let
it
> > go. I know whenever I feel something needs to be changed, I get involved
> > to
> > help make the change happen. As stated before, I was part of a school
> > board
> > for ten years. All volunteer work, and I enjoyed every minute of it.You
> > apparently don't want to do that. If you can prove to me that all 1100
> > people or even half of this organization feels that this information is
> > that
> > important to continue to belong to the AKA, I'll chair the damn
> > committee.I
> > am through with this subject. I rejoined this organization to enjoy
> > myself,
> > and to talk about the little fish.
> >
> >
> > Lonny
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Erny May" <emay1 at wi_rr.com>
> > To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Cool Down!
> >
> >
> >> Are you telling me that the only way to get information, which is
> >> supposed
> >> to
> >> be public, is to chair a committee? What happens when 1100 members want
> >> information?
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "L. Langione" <lonlangione at suscom_net>
> >> To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 3:05 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Cool Down!
> >>
> >>
> >> > And my point is if you want the information, contact the BOOT and
chair
> >> > the
> >> > committee to get the information.
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> > From: "Erny May" <emay1 at wi_rr.com>
> >> > To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 3:38 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Cool Down!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Somewhere in this tirade there is a point, maybe two. Just can't
seem
> > to
> >> >> find it
> >> >> or them. You obviously missed the issue and for whatever reason are
on
> >> >> the
> >> >> attack to drive people who are stating their concerns into silence
> > using
> >> > the
> >> >> old
> >> >> guilt trip routine. My only interest in this is getting information
> >> > believe
> >> >> it or not!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >> From: "L. Langione" <lonlangione at suscom_net>
> >> >> To: <paynedds at voyager_net>; "killifish discussion list"
> >> > <killietalk at aka_org>
> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:19 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Cool Down!
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >    Why don't people vote in the BOT election? One reason could be
> > that
> >> > the
> >> >> > members are happy with the way things are going. Believe it or not
> > the
> >> >> > vast
> >> >> > majority of people who belong to this organization do so because
we
> >> >> > like
> >> >> > killifish. They could care less who is running the show. Let's
face
> > it.
> >> >> > this
> >> >> > organization doesn't effect us the same as the presidential
> >> >> > election.
> >> > And
> >> >> > any comparison of the two is ludicrous. Most people are in the
HOBBY
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > relaxation believe it or not. It is a way to get away from the
daily
> >> >> > b--ls--t we all face everyday. We like the challenge of acquiring
> >> >> > new
> >> > fish
> >> >> > and having them breed for us. And in turn making them available to
> >> > others.
> >> >> > It is exciting as well as educational. We get to meet new people
who
> >> > have
> >> >> > the same interest that we do. Where else can you have a group of
> > people
> >> >> > from
> >> >> > all walks of life actually sit down and discuss a topic of
interest
> >> >> > without
> >> >> > worrying about what the other guy does for a living or where they
> >> >> > may
> >> >> > live.
> >> >> > And we all should fell lucky that there are those who take MORE
time
> > to
> >> > be
> >> >> > sure this organization stays running for us. Over the years I have
> >> >> > known
> >> >> > people with extensive educational backgrounds in science that are
> > very
> >> >> > knowledgeable about tropical fish. On the other hand I have known
> >> >> > people
> >> >> > who
> >> >> > are car mechanics, tool and die makers, salespeople, people on
> >> > disability
> >> >> > and yes even housewives that have as much knowledge, and sometimes
> > more
> >> >> > than
> >> >> > a highly educated individual. We all get to contribute. That is
what
> >> >> > has
> >> >> > always struck me about fish people. We can get together and talk
> > about
> >> > the
> >> >> > same interest without being judgmental.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >    I didn't vote in the BOT election because I just re-joined
after
> >> >> > a
> >> > few
> >> >> > years. I did vote in the past, and I will vote next year. I
shutter
> > to
> >> >> > think
> >> >> > of those that may be thinking about joining the AKA, that are
> >> >> > reading
> >> > this
> >> >> > and thinking twice about joining. Especially the younger
hobbyists.
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > wrote
> >> >> > a few weeks ago about how you will always have those people who
are
> >> > never
> >> >> > satisfied. They always have to stir the pot. And don't get me
wrong,
> > I
> >> >> > believe that everyone has a right to ask questions. If you don't
> >> >> > have
> >> >> > people
> >> >> > asking questions, you never discover new ways of doing things. But
> >> >> > let's
> >> >> > face it, some of the questions that started this whole mess WERE
of
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > sarcastic nature. Sarcasms will always get you a defensive answer
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > rightfully so. Bantering back and forth in killitalk is not going
to
> >> >> > get
> >> >> > any
> >> >> > of us anywhere other than in a deeper hole. If you want more
> >> >> > results,
> > I
> >> >> > suggest you get yourself more involved and make the results
happen.
> > Ask
> >> > to
> >> >> > be on the election committee for next year. Better yet, offer to
> >> >> > form
> > a
> >> >> > committee to compile the information you want. If you don't want
to
> > do
> >> >> > this,
> >> >> > then realize we can't take you serious. You compile the results
you
> >> >> > want
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > make them available. If you only want to bitch and complain about
it
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > do
> >> >> > nothing, then leave...    There are those of us that are sick and
> > tired
> >> > of
> >> >> > the crap. Let's get back to talking about the little fish.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >> > From: "Tom Payne" <paynedds at voyager_net>
> >> >> > To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
> >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:32 PM
> >> >> > Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Cool Down!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> <<In retrospect, every year or so, about this time, AKA
Killietalk
> >> >> >> members
> >> >> > get
> >> >> >> bored and start this same discussion.>>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Seems to correlate to the timing of the full moon and tonight's
> > lunar
> >> >> > eclipse. I can hardly wait to see how tomorrow's egg-picking goes!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Pass the Zoloft!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Tom Payne
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
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> >> >> >> Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
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> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
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> >> >
> >> >
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> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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