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Re: [Killietalk] Cool Down!

Then why don't you do that? The reason I picked up on all of this was the
lambasting that the Cap'n got when he raised some concerns. Apparently
YOU are not reading some of the other postings because it seems that
the Cap'n is not the only one expressing them. I am hardly "raising hell" 
about
this; I'm just not willing to be bullied into silence. I am glad you were on 
the
school board for ten years and I'm glad that you enjoyed every minute of it.
I don't have to prove anything to you since this is an open discussion and 
we
can express our thoughts and concerns. If you want to chair something, go 
for it!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "L. Langione" <lonlangione at suscom_net>
To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Cool Down!


> Apparently you are not reading any of the other posts. People are not
> interested in this topic in this forum. If all 1100 members want the
> information, then they could write the BOT and ask for it. You are the one
> who seems to be raising all the hell about it, and are not able to let it
> go. I know whenever I feel something needs to be changed, I get involved 
> to
> help make the change happen. As stated before, I was part of a school 
> board
> for ten years. All volunteer work, and I enjoyed every minute of it.You
> apparently don't want to do that. If you can prove to me that all 1100
> people or even half of this organization feels that this information is 
> that
> important to continue to belong to the AKA, I'll chair the damn 
> committee.I
> am through with this subject. I rejoined this organization to enjoy 
> myself,
> and to talk about the little fish.
>
>
> Lonny
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Erny May" <emay1 at wi_rr.com>
> To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Cool Down!
>
>
>> Are you telling me that the only way to get information, which is 
>> supposed
>> to
>> be public, is to chair a committee? What happens when 1100 members want
>> information?
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "L. Langione" <lonlangione at suscom_net>
>> To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 3:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Cool Down!
>>
>>
>> > And my point is if you want the information, contact the BOOT and chair
>> > the
>> > committee to get the information.
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Erny May" <emay1 at wi_rr.com>
>> > To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 3:38 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Cool Down!
>> >
>> >
>> >> Somewhere in this tirade there is a point, maybe two. Just can't seem
> to
>> >> find it
>> >> or them. You obviously missed the issue and for whatever reason are on
>> >> the
>> >> attack to drive people who are stating their concerns into silence
> using
>> > the
>> >> old
>> >> guilt trip routine. My only interest in this is getting information
>> > believe
>> >> it or not!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "L. Langione" <lonlangione at suscom_net>
>> >> To: <paynedds at voyager_net>; "killifish discussion list"
>> > <killietalk at aka_org>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:19 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Cool Down!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >    Why don't people vote in the BOT election? One reason could be
> that
>> > the
>> >> > members are happy with the way things are going. Believe it or not
> the
>> >> > vast
>> >> > majority of people who belong to this organization do so because we
>> >> > like
>> >> > killifish. They could care less who is running the show. Let's face
> it.
>> >> > this
>> >> > organization doesn't effect us the same as the presidential 
>> >> > election.
>> > And
>> >> > any comparison of the two is ludicrous. Most people are in the HOBBY
>> >> > for
>> >> > relaxation believe it or not. It is a way to get away from the daily
>> >> > b--ls--t we all face everyday. We like the challenge of acquiring 
>> >> > new
>> > fish
>> >> > and having them breed for us. And in turn making them available to
>> > others.
>> >> > It is exciting as well as educational. We get to meet new people who
>> > have
>> >> > the same interest that we do. Where else can you have a group of
> people
>> >> > from
>> >> > all walks of life actually sit down and discuss a topic of interest
>> >> > without
>> >> > worrying about what the other guy does for a living or where they 
>> >> > may
>> >> > live.
>> >> > And we all should fell lucky that there are those who take MORE time
> to
>> > be
>> >> > sure this organization stays running for us. Over the years I have
>> >> > known
>> >> > people with extensive educational backgrounds in science that are
> very
>> >> > knowledgeable about tropical fish. On the other hand I have known
>> >> > people
>> >> > who
>> >> > are car mechanics, tool and die makers, salespeople, people on
>> > disability
>> >> > and yes even housewives that have as much knowledge, and sometimes
> more
>> >> > than
>> >> > a highly educated individual. We all get to contribute. That is what
>> >> > has
>> >> > always struck me about fish people. We can get together and talk
> about
>> > the
>> >> > same interest without being judgmental.
>> >> >
>> >> >    I didn't vote in the BOT election because I just re-joined after 
>> >> > a
>> > few
>> >> > years. I did vote in the past, and I will vote next year. I shutter
> to
>> >> > think
>> >> > of those that may be thinking about joining the AKA, that are 
>> >> > reading
>> > this
>> >> > and thinking twice about joining. Especially the younger hobbyists. 
>> >> > I
>> >> > wrote
>> >> > a few weeks ago about how you will always have those people who are
>> > never
>> >> > satisfied. They always have to stir the pot. And don't get me wrong,
> I
>> >> > believe that everyone has a right to ask questions. If you don't 
>> >> > have
>> >> > people
>> >> > asking questions, you never discover new ways of doing things. But
>> >> > let's
>> >> > face it, some of the questions that started this whole mess WERE of 
>> >> > a
>> >> > sarcastic nature. Sarcasms will always get you a defensive answer 
>> >> > and
>> >> > rightfully so. Bantering back and forth in killitalk is not going to
>> >> > get
>> >> > any
>> >> > of us anywhere other than in a deeper hole. If you want more 
>> >> > results,
> I
>> >> > suggest you get yourself more involved and make the results happen.
> Ask
>> > to
>> >> > be on the election committee for next year. Better yet, offer to 
>> >> > form
> a
>> >> > committee to compile the information you want. If you don't want to
> do
>> >> > this,
>> >> > then realize we can't take you serious. You compile the results you
>> >> > want
>> >> > and
>> >> > make them available. If you only want to bitch and complain about it
>> >> > and
>> >> > do
>> >> > nothing, then leave...    There are those of us that are sick and
> tired
>> > of
>> >> > the crap. Let's get back to talking about the little fish.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> > From: "Tom Payne" <paynedds at voyager_net>
>> >> > To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:32 PM
>> >> > Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Cool Down!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> <<In retrospect, every year or so, about this time, AKA Killietalk
>> >> >> members
>> >> > get
>> >> >> bored and start this same discussion.>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Seems to correlate to the timing of the full moon and tonight's
> lunar
>> >> > eclipse. I can hardly wait to see how tomorrow's egg-picking goes!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Pass the Zoloft!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Tom Payne
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> To join the AKA see http://www.aka.org/pages/join.html
>> >> >> Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > To join the AKA see http://www.aka.org/pages/join.html
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>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >
>> >
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>> >
>>
>>
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>>
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