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Re: [Killietalk] Re: N&R difficulty ratings



Sounds like it is time for a survey. Most difficult vs least difficult. This would at least give a concensus of experience, realizing that many of us may be avoiding certain species because of hearsay. I for instance avoid all certain species because of my relatively hot Summer fish room temps.
----- Original Message ----- From: "lee Van Hyfte" <littleleeper23 at hotmail_com>
To: <KillieTalk at aka_org>
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 2:44 AM
Subject: [Killietalk] Re: N&R difficulty ratings



Hey Y'all,

How will we determine difficulty ratings. Some of the Killie keepers consider all fish equally difficult to breed (not me) but there is a small consensus. There is some truth to the matter, if they are too hard to breed how did they get there in the first place???

Last year I had attempted creating a fair and just difficulty class system for a killifish breeders award program that would give credit where credit was do. It was based on a huge database and my 16+ years experience as the BAP chairman in our local general club. It was grossly shot down!!!! So if someone were to breed Episemion callipteron and another gardneri Nsukka they get the same award???? Fair? The consensus said yes in the club??? So do they believe all fish are created equal?? HMMM

I have a friend that cannot breed A. australe no matter how hard he tries but breeds much more difficult fish with ease. Another cannot breed Riv. cylindraceus but can breed obscurus??

One thing that me and my father developed were CARE NOTES to go out to each person ordering a given species. Our tried and true methods were written out to give the fish the best likelihood of survival and breeding. We felt we gave them the best fish and then the best info available. Why not develop something similar for the N&R??

I think the N&R has been a great resource for years. Many times substitutions were made in the long past. We recieved fish we had NO CLUE as to what they even were other than a name on a bag. I can remeber opening a box of new arrivals finding Papilolebias? bitteri ( wish I had them Now) I can remember saying what the hell is this?? How do we care for it how does it breed. We had no clue at the time. They lasted about 3-4 weeks and that was it. A simple care sheet could have given us any kind of guidelines to follow!!!!! But sadly we lost the fish and the money spent on them.

If somone were to buy a single pair of any lampeye they would likely be very disappointed in the fish poor if any egg production and would likely just stress and pass away. Tell them to add some zebra danios or another schooling fish with that pair and you have happier fish. Does a beginning hobbyist inherently know this??? Why not provide a simple CARE Note system?

By the way I would like to Commend Brian on selling only groups of Plataplocheilus. Hallelujah!

Give everyone access to the fish! ABSOLUTELY!! But at least give them the basic tools!!!!! As much Misinformation that is on the net a good solid foundation would be a good start. the fish benefit and so does the keeper for that matter so does the hobby.

If the person wants to do their own thing that is fine but at least they have a method sitting in front of them that works. Personally, on species new to me I like to pump the original breeder for as much info as they will share!! I will get a generation started using their tried and true method and then make up my own as it goes along once i have a nice group established!!

The BKA has breeding reports you can fill out and research, why not the AKA? THANKS BKA!!!! With the BKA you can pick and choose a method if there is more than one entry on a given species. And yes I have filled out several reports for their site!!!!

Remeber that great ideal of dissemination of informationthat we hold so dear, and then forget to do!! Or just don't want to spread the secret!!!!!

OK I typed your ears off, God Bless, Lee "the Rivnut" Van Hyfte <><

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