Re: [Killietalk] N & R

[Gary Elson and Mary Frauley <fraulels at videotron_ca>]

Suzy Conklin wrote:

> Brian,
>     I'm not sure if I got the answer to my questions, or maybe I 
> didn't ask them quite right. But you mentioned the N&R "Committee" was 
> re-started by "US" here in NWKillies, am I to take that
> as the NWKillies "IS" the N&R Committee, and that was kind of my 
> original question. So if I were apart of NWKillies then would I 
> automatically be part of the N&R Committee and could trade with others 
> within. 

I'm going to take the liberty of answering, even if I'm not Brian, and 
not part of new and rare. Brian may disagree with what I say, but hey.

NW killies is a regional club. My understanding is some people (with 
Brian at the fore) in it decided to take on the difficult task of 
running the N&R committee for the AKA. Others  in NW killies may sell 
their rare fish on Aquabid, which is no way an AKA "thing".  Aquabid and 
commerces have nothing direct to do with the AKA. If another NW killies 
member has spent a pile of his own money collecting rarities and is 
selling them privately, that's his business. Don't confuse the two. I 
think that's part of the problem here. Apples and oranges in one basket, 
sometimes...

>     IF, the N&R Committee is no more than the AKA members selling 
> their fish, then my concern
> right away was it was sounding like a "Good Ole' Boy Network". And in 
> any case, why have a
> committee when the N&R seem to be showing up on the Internet or at 
> shows ? 

I have "new and rare" fish no one in the AKA has. There's a border 
between Canadian me and you. I can't mail my fish to you. I could to 
N&R, which could handle the shipping costs with the airlines and the 
import permits the US govt demands. Another breeder, say in the US, 
could sell rare fish directly to N&R, who could in effect break down the 
old boys network by reselling them. I see it as a central clearing house 
type function - lots of work for the people who take it on. It's a newly 
restarted committee, and I think they're building it up as best they can.

  At the meeting they weren't sure, but hadn't thought anything had 
been listed for quite some time, again, what purpose is the "Committee" 
serving ?

The committee didn't exist for some time. No one volunteered. . At one 
time it was a major part of every BNL listing, and I personally hope it 
will be again.

   I believe I saw 9 species in the WCW show listed as from the N&RSC 
and a couple from the NWK, I'm assuming that would be NWKillies??. Since 
they were entered, were they auctioned, and if so, are they planning to 
be listed from the "Committee" anytime soon?

I assume if the N&RSC gets them, they'll be available.  I ordered a fish 
from N&R yesterday, from the members area of the website. It is a very 
rare fish I've wanted to see for a long time. Made my day.

>  And as
> far as who is working with what, all I have to do is look on the 
> Internet at show results etc.

Well, I have never participated in a fish show and don't have a website. 
Very few of the killie breeders I know ever have exhibited fish out of 
their local area, have websites or list. You're not going to get an 
accurate picture of the rarities in the hobby from show listings. I can 
see the value of putting pairs in the convention show, where they are 
donations to the AKA for others to have a shot at, but showing fish has 
no appeal for a lot of people who enjoy breeding killies. There are 
always people who put big listings in the BNL, others who show fish 
often, some who concentrate on raising labour intensive oddities, some 
who run committees to keep the AKA going, some who wild-collect, some 
who write about their fish and others who photograph them. I know no one 
with the free time to do all of the above, but if you look at the AKA as 
a whole, it gets done .
Gary in Montreal.

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