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[Killietalk] Re: Pond Experiment
Yes, my pond is recessed in the ground. There is about an 8" to 12"
vertical stone wall up to the ground level. I have never seen/found any
fish on the ground around the pond, but there is a waterfall feeding two
streams that lead down to the pond in a series of small waterfalls. Last
year, I did find a female R. cryptocallus about 5' up into one of the
streams. She was just laying in the shallows, acting quite exhausted.
Little wonder, as it had to leap up about 12" from the pond into the stream,
and then swim the 5' upstream in some quite fast moving water. Interesting,
but it is the only experience I've had with a fish leaving the pond! If you
have an urge, do, by all means, put in an in-ground pond with stream and
waterfall. It will waste your time like no other activity, just staring and
watching and staring and .......
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Frank Carriglitto
ChiKA, WAKO, AKA #08234
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Davis" <unclescott at prodigy_net>
To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Re: Pond Experiment
> Good morning Frank!
>
> Great account of the lineatus. The spirit of the CKA banana pike lives on?
>
> Is your pond recessed in the ground? A problem with the "piklings"
> (Aplocheilus, Epiplatys and Panchypanchax), as you've pointed out, is
their
> epic jumping ability. Are they able to effectively jump out along the
border
> and return to the pond?
>
> Those of us who might have raised containers have a challenge with those
> guys. Either the water level must be dropped, lots of plant cover inserted
> or some sort of screening installed.
>
> Summer thunder storms and those mini-pikes are not a good mix.
>
> We have few garter snakes here. The idea of a liner in the ground sounds
> better all the time.
>
> All the best!
> Scott
>
>
> : [Killietalk] Re: Pond Experiment
>
>
> > In the past, I have put A. australe, several species of riv's, and Blue
> > Gularis in my pond which was inhabited by a number of frogs. They never
> ate
> > any of the fish, and the tadpoles seemed to be multiplying. I then
added
> a
> > trio of P. longipinnis, and in short order they cleaned out the
tadpoles.
> > They seemed to love them far more than the other killies. Anyway,
similar
> > to what you are experiencing, I seldom saw any of the killies. Later in
> the
> > season, the Blue Gularis could be seen, but were not very active. Very
> > disappointing!
> >
> > This year, I put 3 pair of Aplocheilus lineatus (Thanks to Gerhard
Kallus)
> > into the pond, along with 5 smaller koi, and the usual complement of
> frogs.
> > They are a delight. They stay at the surface, to be seen almost all the
> > time, and chase each other when not chasing insects. Yesterday, one
leapt
> > at some flying insect and landed right in the middle of a lily pad leaf.
> It
> > just laid there for awhile and the lily pad slowly sunk under the weight
> > until the water was about half-way up the fish, which then just slowly
> swam
> > off the pad.
> >
> > Bottom line is - if you want to see killies in a pond, you need to stick
> to
> > the surface dwellers. The others just don't show much. Next year, or
> later
> > this year, I'm wanting to try Epiplatys dageti. They don't seem to
bother
> > the young in a tank, so I'm hoping to see some young in the pond. Too
> early
> > yet for any Aplocheilus lineatus young to show up. I'm wondering if
they
> > will? Have any of you had similar experience?
> > o
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> > Frank Carriglitto
> > ChiKA, WAKO, AKA #08234
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "George & Melanie" <caraway at erienet_net>
> > To: <killietalk at aka_org>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 6:16 AM
> > Subject: [Killietalk] Pond Experiment
> >
> >
> > > It has been about a month since I put several pairs of gardneri baissa
> > > in our small 55 gal.outdoor pond. I have not seen any sign of them
since
> > > then. I have a hardy water lily and a couple of water hyacinths in
the
> > > pond as well. We also have a couple of resident frogs in the pond. Has
> > > any one else tried this?? Will the frogs eat the fish?? The largest
> > > frog is about 4 or 5 inches. I have not moved any plants too look for
> > > the fish but I have never seen any sign of them swimming about, etc.
> > > Maybe I should have removed the frogs first??? Any comments are
> > > appreciated.
> > > George
> > >
> > >
> > From: "Joao Gomes" <j_a_m_gomes at iol_pt>
> > To: "'killifish discussion list'" <killietalk at aka_org>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 7:44 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Killietalk] Pond Experiment
> >
> >
> > > >Will the frogs eat the fish?? >
> > > >George>
> > >
> > > Hello George
> > >
> > > In my experience, European frogs Rana perezi will eat fish. I have
often
> > > seen fish tails sticking out of frog's mouths.
> > > The ones I have in my pond were not voluntarily introduced but once
> > > established are difficult to eradicate.
> > > On the other hand, I made an experiment with Aplocheilus lineatus and
> > > found them to be good tadpole predators. Other fishes (goldfish, rosy
> > > barbs, native European barbs and other cyprinids will leave them
alone)
> > >
> > > João
> >
> > >
> >
> >
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