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Re: [Killietalk] Re: Pond Experiment
Good morning Frank!
Great account of the lineatus. The spirit of the CKA banana pike lives on?
Is your pond recessed in the ground? A problem with the "piklings"
(Aplocheilus, Epiplatys and Panchypanchax), as you've pointed out, is their
epic jumping ability. Are they able to effectively jump out along the border
and return to the pond?
Those of us who might have raised containers have a challenge with those
guys. Either the water level must be dropped, lots of plant cover inserted
or some sort of screening installed.
Summer thunder storms and those mini-pikes are not a good mix.
We have few garter snakes here. The idea of a liner in the ground sounds
better all the time.
All the best!
: [Killietalk] Re: Pond Experiment
> In the past, I have put A. australe, several species of riv's, and Blue
> Gularis in my pond which was inhabited by a number of frogs. They never
> any of the fish, and the tadpoles seemed to be multiplying. I then added
> trio of P. longipinnis, and in short order they cleaned out the tadpoles.
> They seemed to love them far more than the other killies. Anyway, similar
> to what you are experiencing, I seldom saw any of the killies. Later in
> season, the Blue Gularis could be seen, but were not very active. Very
> This year, I put 3 pair of Aplocheilus lineatus (Thanks to Gerhard Kallus)
> into the pond, along with 5 smaller koi, and the usual complement of
> They are a delight. They stay at the surface, to be seen almost all the
> time, and chase each other when not chasing insects. Yesterday, one leapt
> at some flying insect and landed right in the middle of a lily pad leaf.
> just laid there for awhile and the lily pad slowly sunk under the weight
> until the water was about half-way up the fish, which then just slowly
> off the pad.
> Bottom line is - if you want to see killies in a pond, you need to stick
> the surface dwellers. The others just don't show much. Next year, or
> this year, I'm wanting to try Epiplatys dageti. They don't seem to bother
> the young in a tank, so I'm hoping to see some young in the pond. Too
> yet for any Aplocheilus lineatus young to show up. I'm wondering if they
> will? Have any of you had similar experience?
> Frank Carriglitto
> ChiKA, WAKO, AKA #08234
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George & Melanie" <caraway at erienet_net>
> To: <killietalk at aka_org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 6:16 AM
> Subject: [Killietalk] Pond Experiment
> > It has been about a month since I put several pairs of gardneri baissa
> > in our small 55 gal.outdoor pond. I have not seen any sign of them since
> > then. I have a hardy water lily and a couple of water hyacinths in the
> > pond as well. We also have a couple of resident frogs in the pond. Has
> > any one else tried this?? Will the frogs eat the fish?? The largest
> > frog is about 4 or 5 inches. I have not moved any plants too look for
> > the fish but I have never seen any sign of them swimming about, etc.
> > Maybe I should have removed the frogs first??? Any comments are
> > appreciated.
> > George
> From: "Joao Gomes" <j_a_m_gomes at iol_pt>
> To: "'killifish discussion list'" <killietalk at aka_org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 7:44 AM
> Subject: RE: [Killietalk] Pond Experiment
> > >Will the frogs eat the fish?? >
> > >George>
> > Hello George
> > In my experience, European frogs Rana perezi will eat fish. I have often
> > seen fish tails sticking out of frog's mouths.
> > The ones I have in my pond were not voluntarily introduced but once
> > established are difficult to eradicate.
> > On the other hand, I made an experiment with Aplocheilus lineatus and
> > found them to be good tadpole predators. Other fishes (goldfish, rosy
> > barbs, native European barbs and other cyprinids will leave them alone)
> > João
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