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Re: [Killietalk] hybrid vigour



Hello Jim,

If you are interested in enriching Daphnia, with HUFAs, Aquatic Eco-Systems, and others, sell self-emulsifying products to do just that.

Best,

George


On Jun 10, 2004, at 3:07 PM, Jim Clark wrote:






That's why I take fishbody oil tabs every morning. I wonder if I can feed them
to my Daphnia.




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Yes. HUFAs are Highly Unsaturated Fatty Acids. Certain types (called omega-3
and omega-6) of these fatty acids are needed in the diet (just like
vitamins), because fish cannot synthesize HUFAs from normal diet intake, and
they are important for nerve development and function, and for other
purposes.


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What are HUFA's? Some kind of Fatty Acid



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Tony reminded me of another recent publication relevant to fish health.
Many
of you are familiar with light shock, the sudden exposure to bright light
of
fish that have been in boxes for a few days. These fish (usually discus
or
angels, but I've seen this in young banggai cardinals and in clownfish fry
too) go into tetanus, getting rigid, trembling, their gill plates
extended.
They fall to the bottom and rarely recover. I've never thought of this in
terms of anything but an effect of light causing stress-induced mortality.
However, a recent publication showed that fishes fed a diet rich in HUFAs
were resistant to light shock. So we see that diet can play an important
role in how a fish responds to a physical stressor.


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At 11:17 AM 6/10/2004 -0600, you wrote:
Gary Elson wrote:


can anyone point me to online resources or personal observations on hybrid vigour in population crosses in killies? I'm specifically curious about the effect such crosses have had on fry growth rates.

Hi . I think the LAST thing we need to do is play with
hybrids. We have worked for over 40 years, keeping populations isolated
and not inter breeding them. We have an entire publication devoted to
specific collection codes and sites where specific killies were
collected....................... I can find no reason other than
scientific
to play with hybridization.

Killies are generally very vigors on their own.............
some
of the annuals have been in the hobby for over 80 years and they are
doing
fine as far as color and growth are concerned.


We do not know enough about the concept of species to play with
population
hybridization........ I can tell you from early hybridization I did with
the bivittatum species group. that results are totally
unpredictable.......... Sterile at F1, fertile at F1 then sterile at F2
etc........ ..


Feed you killies a varied diet with as much live food as
possible,
change water frequently and they will continue to be quite vigors for
many
years to come................

Tony
Tony Terceira
Scituate, Rhode Island

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