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Re: [Killietalk] Reverese Osmosis



Advice is on  good ground, taken as gold, thanks, fist person to shed light
on it and it wasn't a battle, congrats, (oh and ignore my spelling, i got
excited and bought ba backlite keyboard, didn't notice it was nort made for
giant sized saxon fingers)
The test was conducted at the local fish store, it went drk red in nitrites.
bad news, water cdhnage done, "cycling underway" hope and pray is
left...thanks again, mrk
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wright Huntley" <whuntley at verizon_net>
To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Reverese Osmosis


> Mark,
>
> "Mark & Peta" <mbethke at socal_rr.com> wrote:
>
> > I don't want to be negetive but i've been hearing a few battles on other
> > litservs about RO/DI water, so say it's the best thing since slices
bread
> > (for you young one's it's one of our old people saying) others say it's
a
> > way to seperate us from our money.
>
> Both. :-)
>
> > I can see that it does strip out the PO4, Nitrites (or is Nitrates)
lead,
> > copper, zinc other heavy metals (except Guns and roses) plus bacteria
and
> > funguses.
> > The other camp sys , they don't work all that well, if you want one that
> > works that efficently you have to spend big bucks, the under $200 units
just
> > sort of filter things abit.
>
> That's hogwash!
>
> Check out Back to Nature Aquatics. Dr. Ron Harlan has been a killinut
> since his boyhood in BAKA, and provides the best RO units and service in
> the business. I doubt if any of his units go much over $200 and most are
> somewhat less, AFAIK.
>
> Back to Nature Aquatics
> 3837 Cedarbend Dr.
> Glendale, CA 91214
>          (818)248-7133
>          (818)248-0668
>
> Can't find my roster, right now, but bet his age times his membership #
> is one of the lowest in AKA. :-)
>
> > So who's right?
>
> Beside me? Ron is! He has the best advice you will find on the subject.
>
> BTW, In his real life, he's head of the biology dept. at a college, and
> the Back to Nature thing is his avocation, between SA collecting trips.
>
> > Is it better to wait and see who's left standing at the end? or jump in
and
> > wonder if it's a wise investment. Pet Rocks?? who knew??
>
> There's a good place for RO for the larger fishroom. Ask Ron.
>
> > Mark
> > PS water testing turned out to show nitrites to be thru the roof, water
> > change, and some sort of cycling Bacteria and cut feeding by half seems
to
> > be the idea at the LFS....
> > Mrk
>
> If you trust your test kit, I hope you have a pretty high level of salt
> in there. It can help avoid the "brown-blood disease" that high nitrites
> cause, and keep your fish from suffocating until the tank cycling
finishes.
>
> I never see it (cycling), but I'm a plant nut. They eat the ammonium
> *long* before it ever gets to be nitrite.
>
> Earlier, Tom Zaccone wrote:
>
> > My tapwater has about 220 ppm dissolved solids and a pH of 7.8 and I
want to
> > lower ir for
> > killiefish.
>
> Well... I'd think twice about that, unless you are receiving wild fish
> direct from a collector and want to make the acclimation very gradual.
> [A few Gallons from the supermarket will handle that, usually.]
>
> Most killifish (not the killinuts) would consider your water close to
> ideal. In Santa Clara, my water was 450+ ppm and 300 ppm of CaCO3
> equivalent GH. Some killy eggs didn't hatch in it at all. Many more did
> fine, and I even bred Neon Tetras in it! Fp. and Nothos just loved it. I
> also bred a lot of SA catfish in those days, as well as Angels and
Apistos.
>
> In Fremont, I got similar water, but diluted with Sierra snow melt to
> about 300 ppm (and 200 ppm of hardness). Almost *all* killifish did well
> in that water, and I don't recall a single W. African species (including
> ANN) that didn't breed well in it.
>
> I now have way-too-soft water (80 ppm) and may have to make up chemical
> soups to keep many killifish. :-( I have started back with some
> *Chromaphyos* but have real concerns about the Notho and FIL eggs that
> are on the way. Hope they will tolerate my "dead" water without too much
> tinkering.
>
> "Tinkering" can be fun, but it is the deadly enemy of frequent water
> changes. If at all possible, select species that really like your tap
> water. Your satisfaction with the hobby can be much higher, if you do.
>
> That's just my US$0.02. YMMV.
>
> Wright
>
> -- 
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>                      760 872-3995
>
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>
>
>
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