Doug wrote: I just bought a pair at a pet shop the other day. It's been while since I had them. Boy I wish I can get that nice, REAL red strain. --Me too! If anyone on the list has the wild red strain, please contact me offlist, thank you. Bill Ruyle aka08120 To join the AKA see http://www.aka.org/pages/join.html Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/