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[Killietalk] maculatum Lolo 1, DNA-01 PICTURE
A picture of the maculatum Lolo 1, DNA-01 may be viewed at the bottom
of the following link page on my website:
http://www.thekillifishsource.com/page23.html
David
AKA 06121
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Today's Topics:
1. accessing aka web site (Diane Brown)
2. Re: Re: Woims (was anyone else having trouble with the AKA
site?) (SRosendorf at aol_com)
3. Aphy bitaeniatum Ojube-Ode OR Ijebu-Ode? (Ron @ CCK)
4. A. maculatum Loloi DNA-01 (Allan)
5. Re: A. maculatum Loloi DNA-01 (Pjeversman at aol_com)
6. RE: A. maculatum Loloi DNA-01 (Gwee Sia Meng)
7. Re: Aphy bitaeniatum Ojube-Ode OR Ijebu-Ode? (Wright Huntley)
8. Re: A. maculatum Loloi DNA-01 (Aspinwalln at aol_com)
9. RE: Extending Incubation Periods (Tranquility Base)
10. RE: Extending Incubation Periods (Mark Pearlscott)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 17:36:07 -0600
From: Diane Brown <debunix at well_com>
Subject: [Killietalk] accessing aka web site
To: killietalk at aka_org
Ok, so it is my campus system. I can't get to the aka site using any
browser--it always says the site is not available (although I haven't
had any trouble navigating to other sites). This must also be why my
posts weren't going through from my original e-mail address, and why my
killietalk digests were coming through labelled from
"killietalk-bounces...".
thanks for confirming that the problem is on my end.
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:49:30 EST
From: SRosendorf at aol_com
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Re: Woims (was anyone else having trouble
with the AKA site?)
To: killietalk at aka_org
Dear Wright,
I appreciate your trouble and will keep you posted.
Thanks again,
StannR
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 09:52:51 +0800
From: "Ron @ CCK" <ronwill at starhub_net.sg>
Subject: [Killietalk] Aphy bitaeniatum Ojube-Ode OR Ijebu-Ode?
To: killietalk at aka_org
Dear all,
I maintain and started breeding the Aphy bitaeniatum Ijebu-Ode, and have
a small brood that's growing-out nicely. I feel the need to deal with
something I've wanted to ask for a long time.
There are times I see a very similar name "bitaeniatum Ojube-Ode" and a
Google search returned only 2 hits.
One is a "chromaphyosemion working list" posting at;
http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/month.200007/msg00366.html
3 are listed and oddly, the Ojube-Ode is classified as a BIV!
bitaeniatum Ijebu Ode
bitaeniatum "Ijebu-Ode" Commercial import (wild)
bivittatum Ojube-Ode
It was also found in Karl's list in the F&EL of July 2002 at;
http://free.madster.com/data/free.madster.com/1312/1currAKAFEL80.pdf
Googling with "bitaeniatum Ijebu-Ode" returned 110 hits!!
Questions:
Is "Ojube-Ode" and "Ijebu-Ode" one and the same? Different 'names' by
virtue of language/dialect or big-time typo carried over?
Or are they in fact 2 distinct and separate locations?
Comes the time to distribute the young fishes, I hope not to perpetuate
an error, if it was so. Suggestions or corrections always appreciated.
Regards,
Ronnie Lee
Singapore
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 18:14:54 -0800
From: Allan <Ed_Dantes at linkline_com>
Subject: [Killietalk] A. maculatum Loloi DNA-01
To: killietalk at aka_org
I stumbled across a tank labeled A. maculatum Loloi DNA-01, tucked away in
a corner of the fish room.
Can anyone tell me something about this fish. Is it as common as dirt or
should I take a little bit more care of it????
Allan Barber
aka 00122
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 21:29:30 EST
From: Pjeversman at aol_com
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] A. maculatum Loloi DNA-01
To: killietalk at aka_org
Apparently the fish fairy is going around hiding exotic killie species in
peoples' fish rooms again. I hate it when that happens. :)
Philip J. Eversman D.D.S. F.A.G.D.
9052 Log Run Drive South
Indianapolis, In. 46234
Ph. 317 298-4063
pjeversman at aol_com
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 10:35:05 +0800
From: "Gwee Sia Meng" <siameng at tiongaik_com.sg>
Subject: RE: [Killietalk] A. maculatum Loloi DNA-01
To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
>>Apparently the fish fairy is going around hiding exotic killie species in
>>peoples' fish rooms again. I hate it when that happens. :)
I think it is really exotic, 0 hit for goggle and yahoo search! Anyone has
any picture of it??
Regards,
Gwee Sia Meng
AKA 08742
SAA 163
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 20:52:00 -0800
From: Wright Huntley <whuntley at verizon_net>
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Aphy bitaeniatum Ojube-Ode OR Ijebu-Ode?
To: killifish discussion list <killietalk at aka_org>
Ron,
Ijebu Ode is a town in SW Nigeria (and a fairly popular export
location), and both BIT and BIV have been reported from there, though
Huber (KilliData 2000) shows only BIT collected from near that location.
At one time, I had *A. bivittatum* Ijebu Ode that may or may not have
actually come (as opposed to being shipped) from that location, but
truly were BIV and not BIT. They had, as I recall, the characteristic
"BIV spot" at the base of the caudal that BIT never, ever have.
Searching Langton's Collections, I find no BIV listed from that
location, so mine may have been misidentified (or my memory is working
like it usually does). :-)
IMHO, "Ojube-Ode" is a bad spelling, and if your fish don't have a BIV
spot at the base of the caudal penduncle, I would say that they are most
likely correctly identified as BIT Ijebu Ode.
Wright
Ron @ CCK wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I maintain and started breeding the Aphy bitaeniatum Ijebu-Ode, and have
> a small brood that's growing-out nicely. I feel the need to deal with
> something I've wanted to ask for a long time.
>
> There are times I see a very similar name "bitaeniatum Ojube-Ode" and a
> Google search returned only 2 hits.
>
> One is a "chromaphyosemion working list" posting at;
> http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/month.200007/msg00366.html
> 3 are listed and oddly, the Ojube-Ode is classified as a BIV!
> bitaeniatum Ijebu Ode
> bitaeniatum "Ijebu-Ode" Commercial import (wild)
> bivittatum Ojube-Ode
>
> It was also found in Karl's list in the F&EL of July 2002 at;
> http://free.madster.com/data/free.madster.com/1312/1currAKAFEL80.pdf
>
> Googling with "bitaeniatum Ijebu-Ode" returned 110 hits!!
>
> Questions:
> Is "Ojube-Ode" and "Ijebu-Ode" one and the same? Different 'names' by
> virtue of language/dialect or big-time typo carried over?
>
> Or are they in fact 2 distinct and separate locations?
>
> Comes the time to distribute the young fishes, I hope not to perpetuate
> an error, if it was so. Suggestions or corrections always appreciated.
>
> Regards,
> Ronnie Lee
> Singapore
>
>
>
> To join the AKA see http://www.aka.org/pages/join.html
> Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/
>
--
Wright Huntley -- 760 872-3995 -- Rt. 001 Box K36, Bishop CA 93514
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 23:54:35 EST
From: Aspinwalln at aol_com
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] A. maculatum Loloi DNA-01
To: killietalk at aka_org
Hi,
Nevin here in St. Louis. You should take good care of A. maculatum lolo I
DNA
01. These are not common killies. This is the most distinctive and rarest of
all of the maculatums. What is distinctive about it is the yellow color in
the
anal and dorsal fins. All of the other maculatums that I have seen have
white
on the dorsal and anal. This yellow finned variety was first collected, I
believe, by Peter Tirbak. The present locality was collected by me (Dr.
Nevin
Aspinwall = DNA during my 2001 trip to Gabon). This phenotype is only found
to my
knowledge in the little creek on south side of the village of Lolo I. In the
small creek on the other side of the road (about 300 feet apart) there is
found A. cameronense cameronse. Quite wierd. In my aquariums I have found
them to
be quite prolific although slow to mature. This is one of about 8
species/locations that I am trying to maintain in my fish room. When I
collected this fish
I brought back about 25 of them to help insure that I would have a fairly
good representation of the gene pool. When I breed them (I have 8 tanks of
them)
I try to mix them up so as to have as much outcrossing as possible. See you
later. Nevin
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 03:20:21 -0500
From: "Tranquility Base" <TranquilityBase at netzero_net>
Subject: RE: [Killietalk] Extending Incubation Periods
To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
Hi Dave,
I have received the details from the originator of the process, Marc
Bellmans in an e-mail from one of his African pit stops last year. Marc was
reporting some really good results at extending diapause for an
indeterminate period of time. I intend to give the process a try as soon as
I can find some clay. Henri Dabryn was also working with Marc on the
technique. Henri seemed very optimistic claiming that he felt that diapause
could be extended in excess of 5 years. Marc's comments were somewhat more
conservative. Their descriptions of their techniques also varied. I am not
sure if the different projected maximum diapause times were due to various
levels of optimism or differences in techniques. In any event, at the time
the technique has not yet been tested for much over a year. But results are
reportedly promising.
I believe that the work Marc has done and that which is to come will very
much increase the number of Nothos that we will be able to maintained in
captivity. As soon as I can find some clay, I will be starting work on the
process.
I am loathe to report the details of someone else's work. When I have
personal results to report I will do so, but that will be some time off. In
the mean time I would imagine that Marc or Henri will publish. I believe
that the killie community has a real treat to look forward to.
Peace,
~RJ~
-----Original Message-----
From: killietalk-bounces+tranquilitybase=netzero_net at aka.org
[mailto:killietalk-bounces+tranquilitybase=netzero_net at aka.org]On Behalf
Of David Cazes
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 1:41 AM
To: killietalk at aka_org
Subject: RE: [Killietalk] Extending Incubation Periods
some time ago someone discuss about putting eggs in clay to extend the
incubation periods. is anybody still doing this?
David Cazes
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 07:34:05 -0800
From: "Mark Pearlscott" <mark at pearlscott_com>
Subject: RE: [Killietalk] Extending Incubation Periods
To: "'killifish discussion list'" <killietalk at aka_org>
RJ,
Should you want another to corroborate the process, let me know (off
list). Since I'm very interested in extending incubation times, I will
be happy to donate some of my fish eggs to the cause.
Mark Pearlscott
-----Original Message-----
From: killietalk-bounces+mark=pearlscott_com at aka.org
[mailto:killietalk-bounces+mark=pearlscott_com at aka.org] On Behalf Of
Tranquility Base
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 12:20 AM
To: killifish discussion list
Subject: RE: [Killietalk] Extending Incubation Periods
Hi Dave,
I have received the details from the originator of the process, Marc
Bellmans in an e-mail from one of his African pit stops last year. Marc
was
reporting some really good results at extending diapause for an
indeterminate period of time. I intend to give the process a try as soon
as
I can find some clay. Henri Dabryn was also working with Marc on the
technique. Henri seemed very optimistic claiming that he felt that
diapause
could be extended in excess of 5 years. Marc's comments were somewhat
more
conservative. Their descriptions of their techniques also varied. I am
not
sure if the different projected maximum diapause times were due to
various
levels of optimism or differences in techniques. In any event, at the
time
the technique has not yet been tested for much over a year. But results
are
reportedly promising.
I believe that the work Marc has done and that which is to come will
very
much increase the number of Nothos that we will be able to maintained in
captivity. As soon as I can find some clay, I will be starting work on
the
process.
I am loathe to report the details of someone else's work. When I have
personal results to report I will do so, but that will be some time off.
In
the mean time I would imagine that Marc or Henri will publish. I believe
that the killie community has a real treat to look forward to.
Peace,
~RJ~
-----Original Message-----
From: killietalk-bounces+tranquilitybase=netzero_net at aka.org
[mailto:killietalk-bounces+tranquilitybase=netzero_net at aka.org]On Behalf
Of David Cazes
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 1:41 AM
To: killietalk at aka_org
Subject: RE: [Killietalk] Extending Incubation Periods
some time ago someone discuss about putting eggs in clay to extend the
incubation periods. is anybody still doing this?
David Cazes
_________________________________________________________________
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http://fr.ca.search.msn.com/
To join the AKA see http://www.aka.org/pages/join.html
Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/
To join the AKA see http://www.aka.org/pages/join.html
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