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Re: [Killietalk] "Where Have All The Killies Gone"



I was not fortunate enough to obtain any of these species but it would be a shame to have brought them and back and thenhave any of them be lost from the hobby. Perhaps it may be possible in the future when such collections are made and then distributed to others, a log could be kept as a means of who the fish were distributed to and then tracking their progress in the future would be easier. It may also be possible in cases like this where the fish are quite unique that the person receiving the fish agree to do a follow up report in a year or so just to be able to track the progress.
I know this means extra work for all but it may make future tracking easier.
Just a thought,
George


Aspinwalln at aol_com wrote:

At the suggestion of Wright Huntley I would like to start a new discussion thread entitled "Where Have All The Killies Gone".
In 1998, Jack Heller, Tomas Hrbek, and I brought back a sizeable collection of killies from Cameroon some of which we propagated and distributed widely to the hobby. These killies are referenced as "HAH 98". All of us are concerned about maintaining killies in the hobby. We are all familiar with the scenario of a given rare species/location becoming hot, then becoming widely distributed, then becoming common, then falling out of favor, and then disappearing from the hobby. Once a given species/location become extirpated in the hobby it necessitates someone going back to Cameroon or elsewhere and re-collecting-- a very expensive proposition. In my one trip to Cameroon and three trips to Gabon, I have spent about $5,000 per trip.
So, I would like to conduct a survey of killie keepers on the Web to see how many of our collections are still extant in the hobby. So, what follows below is a partial list of the species that we distributed from our 1998 Cameroon collecting trip. (I am not listing the various species/locations of Chromaphyosemions). I would ask that anyone who has one or more of these locations to respond to this email. I will keep track of the data and will summarize it shortly. To show that I, myself, am far from perfect in maintaining killies in the hobby, I report that of the 12 species/ locations listed below I am presently maintaining only four of them after 5 years............Here goes.............


Fundulopanchax mirabilis moense Nfeitok HAH 98
Fundulopanchax mirabilis moense Nguti HAH 98
Fundulopanchax mirabilis moense Bakebe HAH 98
Fundulopanchax mirabilis moense Ayong HAH 98
Fundulopanchax mirabilsi moense Ayong II HAH 98
Fundulopanchax cinnamoneum Bolo Moboka HAH 98
Fundulopanchax gardneri lacustris Lake Ejagham HAH 98
Fundulopanchax gardneri mamfensis Eyumojock HAH 98
Fundulopanchax gardneri mamfensis Ebinsi HAH 98
Aphyosemion raddai Eseka Road HAH 98
Aphyosemion cameronense halleri Ambam HAH 98
Aphyosemion cameronense cameronense Nsessoum HAH 98

Any comments about this survey and about species maintainence would be welcome. Nevin in St. Louis

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