RE: [Killietalk] Cloromine (sic)

["Robert Tucker" <tucker at covad_net>]

This thread's timing is pretty welcome. In my area the water works is
starting using chloramine today. Since I live in a flat my options are
limited to containers, no changes to plumbing. Would using a storage barrel
and Amquel be enough? I imagine seeding the barrel with tank water and
letting the water age some may help to change the ammonia to nitrite and
then nitrate but I don't know if this would be enough. What other options
might work?

Thanks in advance,

Tucker


-----Original Message-----
From: killietalk-bounces+tucker=covad_net at aka.org
[mailto:killietalk-bounces+tucker=covad_net at aka.org]On Behalf Of Wright
Huntley
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 8:07 AM
To: killifish discussion list
Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Cloromine (sic)


Please go back and reread my recent posts, Br. Paul.

Just because you could do this in 1965 does not mean it should be done,
now. THIS IS TERRIBLE ADVICE! [Please forgive my shouting, but I
sincerely hope no one follows your suggestion.]

It *will* kill or seriously injure your fish. In particular, it will
stunt babies and leave them with injured gills. Growth rate of all your
fish will be retarded.

I have known several champion-level show-winning breeders, and a lot of
less-well-known ones who stubbornly refused to face the fact (or did not
know) that our water now usually has chloramine, and hypo releases a
serious burst of ammonium. The damage is subtle and long-term if you do
partial changes. If you do 100% changes, and your pH is above about 7.5,
it is often quite fatal as some of the ammonium becomes deadly ammonia.

Never, ever use hypo or "Novaqua"-type products unless you really know
your water chemistry, very well. Ammonia is really nasty stuff. We now
know, through experience in the aquaculture industry, that harmful
levels of ammonia happen at way below levels we can test -- typically 10
to 100 times less than the lowest reading on hobby test kits. Doing
something that releases any into the water is simply foolish.

Wright

Paul_Jablinski at notes.udayton.edu wrote:
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>
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> To remove clorine from the water put one drop of hypo into the water.  One
> drop will clear one gallon of clorine from the water.  I do not know what
> the effect it has on fish over a period of a long time.  I have used it
and
> there were no ill effects.  Of course, I don't use it all the time; only
> when there is an emergency.
> Br. Paul
>

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