Karl; Jim was talking about the arnoldi Calibar, not the deltaense Bayelsa. Bill Shenefelt http://shene.killi.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Doering" <kilikarl at bignet_net> Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Arnoldi > Fp deltaense Bayelsa We have lots of them in Michigan To join the AKA see http://www.aka.org/pages/join.html Archives are at http://fins.actwin.com/killietalk/