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[Killietalk] Killie Cocaine 2.0
Interesting thread. We have a NorthwestKillies Club member who makes his
own frozen food under the "MacFinn" label. He boasts about all his
ingredients being "food grade", meaning quite literally, you could eat
this stuff.(although the flavor leaves a little to be desired! :O))
Everything eats this stuff. One test I figured would be interesting was
to feed it to freshly unboxed wild caught Killies. There must be an
ingrediant(s) in there that attracts them to the food. (scent perhaps?)
Once they taste it, there's no going back. I have to starve the beasts
for a day to get them hungry enough to take the live food again. They
actively search for the stuff even when it sits on the bottom. I suppose
there's two "components" to food like this. First the fish have to be
enticed to try it somehow, then it has to be nutritious enough to keep
them well, healthy and growing properly. I'm sure there's scads of info.
Out there on what factors into a fishes food selection process. If you
have any questions about his food, you can email him directly at:
fishman9850 AT yahoo DOT com.
Brian Perkins, President
West Linn, OR
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 02:59:41 -0500
From: "Tranquility Base" <TranquilityBase at NetZero_Net>
Subject: [Killietalk] Killie Cocaine
To: "killifish discussion list" <killietalk at aka_org>
Some years ago a friend who was rarely at home started feeding his salt
water fish with an automatic fish feeder. Unfortunately it only fed
flake food. He used Brine Shrimp Plus from Ocean Nutrition. It worked so
well that a tiara batfish went from the size of a dime to the size of a
breakfast plate in six months. It had an impressive list of 'fresh'
Based on these startling results I tried it on killies. Most ate it with
relative indifference. I used it mainly as an occasional supplement.
When I recently ran out, I discovered that the ingredient list had
changed in a big way. Many ingredients were missing and MPAX(Marine
Protein Amino eXtract)was added. Protein is up to 55.7% and fat to
13.0%. It is now manufactured by Salt Creek Inc.
Most of my killies have become flake food junkies(excluding my Rivs, so
far). I have to withhold flake food to get my killies to eat live foods.
I have daphnia breeding in my todi tank! On the up side the fish have
put on a great deal of bulk and are growing unusually quickly. Egg
production appears ok, but I never really established a baseline to
compare it to. Some of my fish will beg for flake with white worms lying
at the bottom of their tank. They eat until they can't swallow any more.
There is something wrong with this picture.
For now I am not sure I am recommending this product or warning you
about it. If anybody else has tried the new Brine Shrimp Plus or any of
the new Ocean Nutrition MPAX products please let me know how it is
working for you. I am interested in the long term results of using this
oddly addictive product.
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