RE: [Killietalk] Poly Filter

["David Lains" <david at zfin_org>]

Hi Wright

The Poly bio Marine web pages has all the facts and EPA standard tests to
back it up.  I've spoke with the owner a few times and he is a nice guy.  My
understanding is that it is a polymer that has an affinity for many cations
and anions.  It is patented so there must be a novel technology used in it's
manufacture.  I use it at work to soak up any unwanted in my recirc systems.

I'm starting to lean towards a contaminated poly pad.  Maybe the pad that
killed the fish was kept near some sort of volatile organic or some other
type of chemical that adsorbed it out of the air.  Just a guess because I
have never heard anything but rave reviews of this product.

Best fishes
David

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><{{{>From: killietalk-bounces at aka_org [mailto:killietalk-bounces at aka_org]On
><{{{>Behalf Of Wright Huntley
><{{{>Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:46 AM
><{{{>To: killietalk email list
><{{{>Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Poly Filter
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><{{{>Interesting thread.
><{{{>
><{{{>The description at That Pet Place reads exactly like the
><{{{>finest kind of
><{{{>19th Century "Snake Oil." That quickly raises my suspicion.
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><{{{>Does anyone know what is in it or how it is supposed to work?
><{{{>
><{{{>[Lee's note came while I was writing this, and it gave me
><{{{>lots of info.
><{{{>Thanks.]
><{{{>
><{{{>If you want ammonia control for shipping in small amounts of
><{{{>water, the
><{{{>proven winner has long been "Amquel" or its successors, like
><{{{>"Prime" or
><{{{>"Ammo Lock 2." I pre-mix fresh shipping water (to about or
><{{{>maybe higher
><{{{>tds than the fishes normal water), with a stiffer dose of
><{{{>"Amquel" than
><{{{>the regular tank dose. I try to keep it at or below about 3X normal
><{{{>dosage. Works great and minimizes shipping losses, IME.
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><{{{>The only experience I have had with "poly filter" was some
><{{{>rather sick
><{{{>fish I received that had a tiny snippet of the filter material in the
><{{{>bag. One look at their condition and the ugly smell of the water
><{{{>convinced me that I wouldn't want to use it. IDK if it was at
><{{{>fault, and
><{{{>my experience was hardly a good statistical sample.
><{{{>
><{{{>I'd want to know what is in it, how it works, and how to
><{{{>control dosage
><{{{>over variable travel times before I would risk fish. I *know*
><{{{>"Amquel"
><{{{>works and dosage can be controlled by mixing proper amounts, combined
><{{{>with starving the fish for a day or two.
><{{{>
><{{{>I know that activated carbon works (slowly) in high-pressure filter
><{{{>canisters (and not very much in aquarium filters) to remove
><{{{>chloramine
><{{{>and maybe even ammonia.
><{{{>
><{{{>Maybe salt water is too precious, but I discard *all* water used to
><{{{>medicate in a hospital tank. If I medicate a whole tank, extra water
><{{{>changes gets rid of the unwanted residue, very readily.
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><{{{>My $0.02,
><{{{>
><{{{>Wright
><{{{>
><{{{>ClayCrawford56 at aol_com wrote:
><{{{>
><{{{>> Bill
><{{{>>
><{{{>> I was going to contact you directly, but since I saw your
><{{{>posting thought I
><{{{>> would address it on line since you addressed something I
><{{{>had not considered -
><{{{>> the poly filter.
><{{{>>
><{{{>> I purchased three different species of Epiplatys from the
><{{{>fish room at the
><{{{>> CKA.  You may remember that we sat and talked about each at
><{{{>length.  The chaperi
><{{{>> Angona and infrafaciatus Bipindi both are doing great and
><{{{>are in their own
><{{{>> 2.5 gallon tanks.  However, when I got home Sunday the
><{{{>ansorgii were dead.  At
><{{{>> the time it didn't occur to me but since you put this email
><{{{>on the list, I
><{{{>> realized that they were the only ones with poly-filter.
><{{{>>
><{{{>> I have used polyfilter myself in the past with no problems,
><{{{>however, this
><{{{>> might have been what caused their deaths.  I wonder if the
><{{{>fact that it didn't
><{{{>> seem to work is due to the fact that killies usually travel
><{{{>with such small
><{{{>> amounts of water.  When I have used polyfilter with
><{{{>cichlids and others, it has
><{{{>> been in situations where larger volumes of water were used.
><{{{>>
><{{{>> Regards
><{{{>>
><{{{>> Clay in NJ
><{{{>>
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