Re: Re: [Killietalk] Emailing: Ogo wound

["Erny May" <emay1 at wi_rr.com>]

It is a bare bone plastic tank with some drift wood, old sponge filter and
some watersprite. Stan, you may recall that I pulled around 48 bivs out
of there about two months ago and they are doing fine. What makes it
even more confusing, while they were in there none of this happened.
My feeling about the whole thing is turning more and more in the direction
that the big stud male is responsible.

                                            Erny

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stan Perkins" <stanperkins at academicplanet_com>
To: "killietalk email list" <killietalk at aka_org>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [Killietalk] Emailing: Ogo wound


> Take him up on the culture and history! 99% of the time we fail to get a
> diagnosis and spend time and money treating the symptoms. I would not move
> these fish !!!! You have just contaminated another tank!  Either keep them
> in the old tank until a diagnosis is returned or euthanize them. You can't
> afford to spread a disease around your tanks!
>
> Stan Perkins
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Erny May" <emay1 at wi_rr.com>
> To: "killietalk email list" <killietalk at aka_org>
> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 11:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: [Killietalk] Emailing: Ogo wound
>
>
> > Thanks Stan,
> >
> > Norm Ruebsamen suggested the same thing and that may take care of it,
but
> I
> > sure would like to know
> > the cause. At this point I removed the remaining fish, 2 males and 6 fry
> and
> > the cories and plan to just
> > let the tank sit for a while until I figure out what I want to do. Now
if
> > there is something in the tank there is
> > nothing to attack; if it is some sort of abscess, internal parasite or
> > whatever, it should be with the fish
> > and should occur again. Barry has also offered to do a culture and
> > histopathology and I may take him
> > up on it. Again, thanks for your interest
> >
> >                                                                Erny
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Stan Perkins" <stanperkins at academicplanet_com>
> > To: "killietalk email list" <killietalk at aka_org>
> > Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 6:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: Re: [Killietalk] Emailing: Ogo wound
> >
> >
> > > My only problem with this is the female with the huge abscess showed
no
> > prior symptoms. My experience has been that either minor wounds or
> swelling
> > would accompany a bacterial abscess. I have seen parasitic nematodes
> > associated with secondary bacterial infections produce similar wounds.
> > Ulcerative tumors usually are visible prior rupture.
> > >
> > > No matter what, I would sack everything in the tank. Sanitize it with
a
> > strong bleach solution, dispose of gravel and plants, and place the tank
> in
> > the hot sun for a few days! Wear gloves and wash your hands freqently .
> > There are some really nasty 'bugs' out there.
> > >
> > >
> > > Stan Perkins
> > > "Gone fishin'"
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Erny May
> > > Sent: 8/29/2003 4:22:40 PM
> > > To: killietalk at aka_org
> > > Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Emailing: Ogo wound
> > >
> > > > Happened virtually over night. 1 female without any thing; 3 with
the
> > >
> > > > wounds;
> > >
> > > > 2 males with minor wounds; large male without anything. 6 healthy
fry.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >
> > > > From: "Perkins, Stanley" <Stanley_Perkins at fortbend.k12.tx.us>
> > >
> > > > To: "'killietalk email list'" <killietalk at aka_org>
> > >
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 2:01 PM
> > >
> > > > Subject: RE: [Killietalk] Emailing: Ogo wound
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > > Ulcerative tumor or bacterial abscess?
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Stan Perkins
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >  -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > > > From: Rjga at aol_com [mailto:Rjga at aol_com]
> > >
> > > > > Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 8:14 AM
> > >
> > > > > To: killietalk at aka_org
> > >
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Killietalk] Emailing: Ogo wound
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > >  << File: DISEAS-2.A&P.doc >> << File: ATT123880.txt >> I don't
> think
> > >
> > > > that's
> > >
> > > > > a bite. It looks like a rapid bacterial invasion to me.
> > >
> > > > > See the attached document on bacterial diseases.
> > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > Robert J. Goldstein, Ph.D.
> > >
> > > > > Robert J. Goldstein & Associates, Inc.
> > >
> > > > > Environmental Consultants
> > >
> > > > > 8480 Garvey Drive
> > >
> > > > > Raleigh, NC 27616 USA
> > >
> > > > > tel  (919) 872-1174
> > >
> > > > > fax (919) 872-9214
> > >
> > > > > URL   www.rjgaCarolina.com
> > >
> > > > > e-mail  rgoldstein at rjgaCarolina_com
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