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Re: collecting issues

Hi all,

I've been reading the thread and was determined to stay out of it but, there is another option that has not been mentioned. This option comes out of a conversation between a good friend of mine who lives in Guyana, South America. He and his wife are missionaries there. He is a native Guyanese married to an American woman. I have been on several short term mission trips to Guyana as part of an optometry team. He is very interested in hooking up with a group to import fish from Guyana to the US as a way of increasing the economic condition of his people. The average Guyanese earns about $30 per month. Part of his background is that of a fisherman. On my last trip, I went fishing with Andy and several members of the church and some other fishermen. What a blast! Andy and his people can be easily trained to identify the fish that are wanted. They can catch them, rear them, mail them, ship them whatever. There are a number of killies there as well as many, many other types of fish.

Now here is the kicker, what I am suggesting here can be replicated in virtually every country in the world. I am not suggesting that the AKA underwrite missionaries in spreading the Gospel but if missionaries and local church members can provide a service to the AKA and AKA members, it seems that people can help one another. Just some preliminary thoughts. Joe.

Roy Klinger wrote:

Now My Two Cents Worth,

I think it is TOTALLY appropiate for the AKA to fund the importation of new
fish!

The AKA has been doing it for years -- directly & indirectly!  The New and
Rare Species Committee, when it was in existance, was purchasing collected
and new species from Europe and Africa for years, and reselling them to our
members.  While Lenny Mackowiak may have used some of his own funds at
times. the AKA provided some money and TOTAL support of the effort. How
about a cooperative effort with the DKG or BKA etc. to support some of their
collecting efforts for part of the fish brough back.

I really don't understand the big deal. The AKA has somewhere near  $100,000
dollars in reserve.  Lets spend a little to "help the hobbie".And as for
funding the academic programs as suggested as a way to 'encourage'
ichthyological community and grad students to get travel money sound like a
make work job.





Roy Klinger 07478

----- Original Message ----- From: <Rjga at aol_com>
To: <killietalk at AKA_Org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: Erny's collecting issues




My two cents worth:

I think it is entirely inappropriate for AKA to fund the collection of
anything in another country for purposes of bringing them here for what is


primarily


a hobby, rather than a conservation,.organization. Aside from the legal
issues (including loss of our tax exempt status and somebody's violation


of another


country's laws), there are better ways to accomplish the goal of getting


new


fish into the hobby.

One way is to set aside funds (the BOT can decide how to and how much and


how


often) for a new line item budget dedicated to supporting killifish


taxonomy


research, and make that known to the ichthyological community (and that's


easy


to do). If grad students or others want to tap into the money (perhaps


set


aside for travel costs to meetings or to collecting areas), then the BOT


can


review the requests for funding and decide if any are consistent with AKA


goals.


If they are consistent and funded, I think it's inevitable that brood


stock


will find its way to the AKA.

It's important that this not be a tit for tat, or tax exempt status might


be


threatened. It's equally important that we not appear to be soliciting


imports


of new fish for our money. With good relationships, that isn't necessary.

Robert J. Goldstein, Ph.D.
Robert J. Goldstein & Associates, Inc.
Environmental Consultants
8480 Garvey Drive
Raleigh, NC 27616 USA
tel  (919) 872-1174
fax (919) 872-9214
URL   www.rjgaCarolina.com
e-mail  rgoldstein at rjgaCarolina_com


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