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Re: Jiffy-7 Peat Pellets
The peat in Jiffy pellets is finely milled, much finer than that in bales.
That is why most people use it.
Barry
At 08:56 PM 1/13/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>In my previous life as a horticulturist, I was familiar with the jiffy
>line. The jiffy 9's are indeed a lot smaller, so it would take more. Also,
>they don't require netting because they contain some sort of "binding
>agent". This would be worrisome to me, as I can't imagine what they could
>use to bind them with that I would want in my tanks.
>
>If costs is really that big a deal, why don't a few people prepare large
>batches of peat from the bales and sell it damp in bags at the local club
>meetings. I have done that with worm culture media a few times. Damp peat
>keeps a really long time. If it was pretreated by soaking, sifting, adding
>lime, etc. it would be better than the pellets and the person preparing it
>might even make a few bucks selling it. And the "waste products" from this
>operation would still be fine additives for the garden. Seems like a
>possible business opportunity for someone.
>
>Dennis
>
>Barry Cooper wrote:
>>I actually just got onto their online store. I guess everyone has
>>occasional server problems :o)
>>Anyway, I was interested to find a product called Jiffy 9, which, if I
>>read things correctly, is the same as Jiffy 7, without the netting. They
>>are half the price! As we all throw away the netting, these seem like the
>>right thing to buy to me. I have ordered some, so I guess I'll find out.
>>I always found it a pain in the you know what to have to remove the netting.
>>Barry
>>At 07:02 PM 1/13/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>>
>>>Barry, Mellingers can also be reached by phone at 800-321-7444. I've
>>>purchased several cases from them over the years and have never had a
>>>problem. They're a garden supply outfit.
>>>Dan
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Barry Cooper" <bjc3 at cornell_edu>
>>>To: <killietalk at aka_org>
>>>Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 6:45 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Jiffy-7 Peat Pellets
>>>
>>>
>>> > Thanks Dan. I certainly haven't seen a price better than that
>>> > anywhere.Unfortunately their online store is inoperative at the moment.
>>> > I'll try them again tomorrow.
>>> >
>>> > Barry
>>> >
>>> > At 06:16 PM 1/13/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>>> > >For several years now I have been buying Jiffy 7's by the case ( 1,000
>>> > >units) from Mellingers. Current price is $62.00 per case plus about $10
>>> > >more for shipping. For further information go to www.mellingers.com
>>> > >Dan Katz
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >----- Original Message -----
>>> > >From: "Barry Cooper" <bjc3 at cornell_edu>
>>> > >To: <killietalk at aka_org>
>>> > >Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 5:56 PM
>>> > >Subject: Re: Jiffy-7 Peat Pellets
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > > I actually talked to the Jiffy people today, as I was looking
>>> into the
>>> > > > source that Lee Harper had mentioned some months ago on killietalk,
>>>namely
>>> > > > the Always Grows Company. First, they are kaput. If you call
>>> their 800
>>> > > > number you get Jiffy. Jiffy would consider selling to the AKA direct,
>>>if
>>> > >we
>>> > > > commit to $10,000 in purchases per year. Hah! Dream on. For
>>> reference,
>>>the
>>> > > > cost per 1000 under such conditions is about $50.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > They suggested talking to a distributor. I did talk to the local one
>>>here
>>> > > > in Oregon. They won't sell orders under $500. They also can only
>>>deliver
>>> > >to
>>> > > > businesses, not home addresses. It might be possible to purchase an
>>>order
>>> > > > as a club, but then you would have the problems of holding and
>>> > >distributing
>>> > > > them. Not something I would want to take on, frankly.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > If anyone comes up with a supplier than will sell at a reasonable
>>> cost
>>>(I
>>> > > > would consider that as $70/1000) and will ship, let us know.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Barry
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > At 12:54 PM 1/13/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > >Morris, George wrote:
>>> > > > >>I wonder if Jiffy would be interested in making a product just for
>>>us,
>>> > >to be
>>> > > > >>sold throught he On-Line Store.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >Nice thought, but probably a waste of effort.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >The added CaCO3 (limestone) just saturates the ion exchange sites
>>>with Ca
>>> > > > >ions, to keep the peat from altering your water as quickly, and most
>>> > > > >fertilizing agents will be removed by the boiling and rinsing
>>>process.
>>> > > > >Likewise, the more soluble organic acids are removed, so only a
>>>modest
>>> > > > >amount of buffering is needed to completely avoid the dreaded "pH
>>>Crash."
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >YMMV. Since boiling and rinsing are mandatory for other reasons,
>>> I'll
>>>be
>>> > > > >happy to keep using the 700 series pellets at whatever cheap price I
>>>can
>>> > > > >find. I do have to watch it and add a bit of buffering (baking soda)
>>>to
>>> > >my
>>> > > > >too-soft water, at times. [I guess I must wash out all that useful
>>> > >(H)CO3,
>>> > > > >from the limestone, with the fines and fertilizers.]
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >Wright
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >--
>>> > > > >Wright Huntley -- 209 521-0557 -- 731 Loletta Ave, Modesto CA 95351
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > All K-Mart and Walmart stores to be closed in Iraq.
>>> > > > > They will be replaced by Targets.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > www.sfbaka.net
>>> > > > >
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>>> > > > Barry J. Cooper, Prof. Emeritus, Dept. Biomedical Sciences, Cornell
>>> > >University
>>> > > > Adjunct faculty, College of Veterinary Medicine, Oregon State
>>>University
>>> > > > Home address: 27505 Riggs Hill Rd., Sweet Home, OR 97386
>>> > >(bjc3 at cornell_edu)
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>>> > Barry J. Cooper, Prof. Emeritus, Dept. Biomedical Sciences, Cornell
>>>University
>>> > Adjunct faculty, College of Veterinary Medicine, Oregon State University
>>> > Home address: 27505 Riggs Hill Rd., Sweet Home, OR 97386
>>>(bjc3 at cornell_edu)
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>>Barry J. Cooper, Prof. Emeritus, Dept. Biomedical Sciences, Cornell
>>University
>>Adjunct faculty, College of Veterinary Medicine, Oregon State University
>>Home address: 27505 Riggs Hill Rd., Sweet Home, OR 97386 (bjc3 at cornell_edu)
>>
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Adjunct faculty, College of Veterinary Medicine, Oregon State University
Home address: 27505 Riggs Hill Rd., Sweet Home, OR 97386 (bjc3 at cornell_edu)
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