RE: Using AKA images on Aquabid?

["David Lains" <david at zfin_org>]

Hi Barry

There is now soft ware out there that will blank out an image when your
cursor touches it.  Theres a Marine website with a piebald yellow tank on it
and they have the picture blocked.  Its a 1 in a million fish and a picture
to match.  Maybe we could attract more images for the site if we had this
kind of protection.

food for thought
Best fishes

David

><{{{>-----Original Message-----
><{{{>From: owner-killietalk at aka_org [mailto:owner-killietalk at aka_org]On
><{{{>Behalf Of Barry Cooper
><{{{>Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 1:56 PM
><{{{>To: killietalk at aka_org
><{{{>Subject: Re: Using AKA images on Aquabid?
><{{{>
><{{{>
><{{{>Strictly speaking, yes. Any use of a copyright image requires
><{{{>permission of
><{{{>the copyright owner. Having said that, I don't think most
><{{{>photographers
><{{{>would get very upset to know that you had made a print just
><{{{>for private use
><{{{>in your fishroom. What is hurting everyone is the
><{{{>indiscriminate theft of
><{{{>images from web sites, like the AKA's, for use either
><{{{>commercially or for
><{{{>the criminal's own website. Do I sound upset about the issue?
><{{{>Yes, I am. I
><{{{>have already had some excellent photographers decline to
><{{{>contribute further
><{{{>images to the AKA website because they cannot tolerate the
><{{{>wholesale theft
><{{{>of the images that has occurred already, despite copyright notices.
><{{{>Recently I discovered that a web site in Europe contained many images
><{{{>stolen from the AKA web site, with the copyright notice
><{{{>cropped off. That
><{{{>really makes me angry. I have written to that particular
><{{{>criminal but have
><{{{>not received the courtesy of a reply. My next step is to
><{{{>complain to the
><{{{>national killie club in that country.
><{{{>
><{{{>It is always better to ask for permission, even for use such
><{{{>as you describe.
><{{{>
><{{{>Barry
><{{{>
><{{{>At 01:21 PM 12/11/2002 -0600, you wrote:
><{{{>>Barry,
><{{{>>
><{{{>>  Does that include making a copy, framing it to adorn your
><{{{>fish room?
><{{{>>
><{{{>>                                        erny
><{{{>>----- Original Message -----
><{{{>>From: "Barry Cooper" <bjc3 at cornell_edu>
><{{{>>To: <killietalk at aka_org>
><{{{>>Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 1:10 AM
><{{{>>Subject: Re: Using AKA images on Aquabid?
><{{{>>
><{{{>>
><{{{>> > It is unethical to use them without obtaining prior
><{{{>permission from the
><{{{>> > copyright owner.
><{{{>> >
><{{{>> > Barry
><{{{>> >
><{{{>> > At 05:12 PM 12/10/2002 -0800, you wrote:
><{{{>> > >Hello All
><{{{>> > >
><{{{>> > >I've been wondering about using AKA images of fish to sell on
><{{{>>aquabid.com.
><{{{>> > >What is the current standing on this?  Do you talk to
><{{{>the individual
><{{{>>owners
><{{{>> > >of the images or are they property of the AKA?  Can they
><{{{>be used?  By
><{{{>> > >members only or are they open to the public?
><{{{>> > >
><{{{>> > >There is at least one being used on Aquabid currently.
><{{{>It is a nice
><{{{>> > >representation of the fish and I would also like to use
><{{{>it if it is
><{{{>> > >legal/ethical to do so.  It appears the person using the
><{{{>image isn't a
><{{{>> > >member of the AKA.
><{{{>> > >
><{{{>> > >If these images are not available to use on line are
><{{{>there people out
><{{{>>there
><{{{>> > >who allow their images to be used freely?
><{{{>> > >
><{{{>> > >Best fishes
><{{{>> > >David
><{{{>> > >
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><{{{>> >
><{{{>> > Barry J. Cooper, Prof. Emeritus, Dept. Biomedical
><{{{>Sciences, Cornell
><{{{>>University
><{{{>> > Adjunct faculty, College of Veterinary Medicine, Oregon
><{{{>State University
><{{{>> > Home address: 27505 Riggs Hill Rd., Sweet Home, OR 97386
><{{{>>(bjc3 at cornell_edu)
><{{{>> >
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><{{{>Barry J. Cooper, Prof. Emeritus, Dept. Biomedical Sciences,
><{{{>Cornell University
><{{{>Adjunct faculty, College of Veterinary Medicine, Oregon State
><{{{>University
><{{{>Home address: 27505 Riggs Hill Rd., Sweet Home, OR 97386
><{{{>(bjc3 at cornell_edu)
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