RE: snails , the guest that won't go home

["Joseph" <jazz001 at di-ve_com>]

Some of the so called  snail killers are used widely in fish farms and the
snails get used to it ,thus the snails you are trying to kill need a much
heavier dose which sometimes is deadly to fish.manufaturares if you ask them
like I have done tell you to increase the dose gradually, but they don't
tell you where to stop. so be careful what to use.
this is from my past experience with  a particular product which is not
correct to say the name for ethical reasons but to who it may concern I can
supply all the data on  private e-mail.
the only solution was to empty the tank and wash with salt.
jazz    Malta


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-killietalk at aka_org [mailto:owner-killietalk at aka_org]On
Behalf Of Erik Pfingstner
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 12:15 PM
To: killietalk at aka_org
Subject: AW: snails , the guest that won't go home


I personally agree with those who recommend snail-eating fish.

Here a possible explanation why your snail killer didn't work: If you are
using a de-clorinator, it most probably also has some substances to
chemically bind heavy metals. Snail killers usually will work with copper
which gets inactivated by the declorinator.

If your tank is big and has a well working biological system, the
mikro-organisms will buffer up a lot of the copper stuff by themselves.

Erik



> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: owner-killietalk at aka_org [mailto:owner-killietalk at aka_org]Im
> Auftrag von mark bethke
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. Dezember 2002 17:13
> An: killietalk at actwin_com
> Betreff: snails , the guest that won't go home
>
>
>
> Good morning , I'm new to the list and would like to relate a problem .
> We have a 40 gl w/ a double biowheel filter . The tank is heavily
> planted and for the most it's a gourami tank.
> About a yr back I did find a pair of  aplocheilus lineatus and they seem
> to have adjusted to the tank rather well .
> With all the plants it was inevitable that we would be importing snails
> , there are three types , one is a typical "ramshorn" another is a small
> thin shelled type that resembles a "marginela gastropod" the third is an
> inlongated snail that only eats detritus in the gravel , it's not a
> problem snail and seems to be more helpful then destructive.
> The other two types are destuctive to the plants and even get into the
> filter which stops the biowheels . I began a crusade to elimanate the
> first two types . I crush them then drop it into the water, the killi's
> seem to only eat the thin shelled types and the ranshorn type are eaten
> by the other inhabitants . it's a losing battle though as they breed so
> fast that I can't keep up . i turned to a snailicide, after three
> treatments there have been no true reductions in the snail population. I
>  discontinued use for two resons , 1) , the snails weren't being
> reduced, 2) i don't like using any pesticide or chemical due to unknown
> effects in the fish.
> Any other suggestions???
> Also , is there a book out there for gourami people , i know this is a
> killifish forum but I would appreciate the imput .
>
> mark bethke
>
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