RE: Livebearing Killies black ghost knife

[Chris Browning <fisher25000 at yahoo_com>]

I wish I had gotten to that site. Nothing I read said
anything about not keeping them with small fish, and,
ofcourse, if I had read anything about not keeping
them with small fish, I wouldn't have boughten one. I
figured they were another one of the large, peaceful,
downright stupid types, lol, like Bala Sharks and
Clown Loaches. Well, I won't keep any killies besides
the ones that are left in my 125, my Golden Wonders,
my Blue Panchax, who really needs some mates, my
Bluefins, and my Werneri, who is doing absolutely
great by the way, he is extremely active, his fins are
never clamped, he swim up to look at me when I come to
the tank, and his colors are amazing.


--- David Lains <david at zfin_org> wrote:
> Hi Chris
> 
> Its great to hear that you did you research.  Here
> is a site you may want to
> read.  It is the first site that comes up when you
> google black ghost knife:
> http://www.aquahobby.com/gallery/gaptero.html
> 
> 
> Here are a few quotes:
> "Unlike other kinds of knifefish, the black ghost is
> generally peaceful.
> However, small fish won't be nice mates for it.
> Small SAE and rasbora
> harlequin didn't last a long time."
> 
> "The Black Ghost Knife is one of the neatest fish
> out their on the market.
> Mine is about 20 cm long right now. A very peaceful
> fish, but I wouldn't
> recommend putting in small Tetras or anything less
> than 8 cm long."
> 
> Fish On
> David
> 
> ><{{{>-----Original Message-----
> ><{{{>From: owner-killietalk at aka_org
> [mailto:owner-killietalk at aka_org]On
> ><{{{>Behalf Of Chris Browning
> ><{{{>Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 2:40 PM
> ><{{{>To: killietalk at aka_org
> ><{{{>Subject: RE: Livebearing Killies
> ><{{{>
> ><{{{>
> ><{{{>Ok, lay off. I spent 3 hours a day, 5 nights a
> week,
> ><{{{>for 2 months reading about Black Ghost Knifes
> before I
> ><{{{>bought one. I do that with just about every
> fish I
> ><{{{>buy, I did it with the Clown, I did it with
> the Balas,
> ><{{{>I did it with the Hatchets, I did it with the
> ><{{{>Rainbows, it is standard procedure for me, and
> so far,
> ><{{{>everything I read on those fish has been
> right, I did
> ><{{{>not think that there would be a problem with
> the BGK,
> ><{{{>everything I read said they were just about
> perfect
> ><{{{>fish, you could train them to sit in your
> hand, take
> ><{{{>food from your fingers, they could be kept
> with any
> ><{{{>fish that wouldn't pick on them! Not any fish
> they
> ><{{{>couldn't pick on! I talked to dozens of people
> who
> ><{{{>either owned one now or used to own one. Not a
> single
> ><{{{>person told me of bad experiences with it,
> other than
> ><{{{>being shocked a few times while they were
> training it.
> ><{{{>Not a single person said it had ever killed
> another
> ><{{{>fish, or even attacked one! The worst thing I
> heard
> ><{{{>about them was one woman had one housed with
> some
> ><{{{>Clown Loaches, and it would chase the clowns
> out of
> ><{{{>its house, but it would never hurt them. That
> didn't
> ><{{{>detour me, what fish doesn't chase away
> invaders from
> ><{{{>it's house? My CAE used to do it, my Pleco did
> it, my
> ><{{{>clowns do itt, my Rainbow Darter does it. That
> fish
> ><{{{>was in my tank with Black Neons, Plattys,
> Mollys,
> ><{{{>Praecox, Bluefins, and a Rainbow Darter for a
> month
> ><{{{>and a half and all of these fish were under an
> inch
> ><{{{>long! Plenty small enough to eat, but he never
> did!
> ><{{{>How was I supposed to know that when I threw
> some 2
> ><{{{>inch long killies in there, he would decide he
> could
> ><{{{>eat those?! He was entirely peaceful until a
> couple of
> ><{{{>days after I put the new killies in. I know
> knife fish
> ><{{{>are notorious for their aggressiveness, but
> BGKs are
> ><{{{>known for theirpeacefullness! My Aquarium
> Fishes of
> ><{{{>the World book has an unusually short
> description of
> ><{{{>their habits: A peaceful, friendly fish. That
> is how
> ><{{{>the book describes them, that is how everyone
> I talked
> ><{{{>to described them, that is how practically
> every
> ><{{{>website I was ever on described them, so how
> was I
> ><{{{>supposed to know that I would get one with a
> bad
> ><{{{>temper or a taste for fish?!
> ><{{{>
> ><{{{>--- David Lains <david at zfin_org> wrote:
> ><{{{>> Chris
> ><{{{>>
> ><{{{>> What about the people who buy fish with out
> doing
> ><{{{>> their home work.  Come on
> ><{{{>> anyone on aquabid can do a 2 second search
> of google
> ><{{{>> and find out exactly
> ><{{{>> what these fish are.  Come on you put
> killies in
> ><{{{>> with a knife fish, there's
> ><{{{>> doing your home work!
> ><{{{>>
> ><{{{>> Best Fishes
> ><{{{>> David
> ><{{{>>
> ><{{{>>
> ><{{{>> ><{{{>I am just angry with what some people
> are
> ><{{{>> ><{{{>trying to sell these fish as and screw
> people
> ><{{{>> over),
> ><{{{>> ><{{{>"Heterandria Formosa, a live-bearing
> tooth
> ><{{{>> carp".
> ><{{{>> ><{{{>
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