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Thanks Robert, I'll give your method a try.
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From: <RuevenM at aol_com>
To: <killietalk at aka_org>
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 9:15 AM
> Hi Dan,
> That sure sounds like columnaris to me. There is a great little
> disease book put out by the Dutch, I believe, called the Color Guide To
> Diseases, or something close to that, and it pictures how columnaris looks
> many different species -- and it varies alot! It is my belief, that as far
> bacteria infections go, Flexibacter (spelling?) columnaris is the biggee
> the hobby today. I think it is the bug in the guppy, discus and angelfish
> plagues of recent years. I learned to deal with it by trying to treat
> cardinal tetras in a LFS I worked at. Cardinals always get columnaris when
> they come in. The fish gets either very thin or slightly bloated (maybe a
> related infection of something?), swims to itself, becomes listless,
> to pump its gills and breathe heavily, the fins will look slightly frayed,
> and a large whitish/grey patch or "saddle" will appear on or under the
> on the back somewhere. This patch grows. Mouth fungus and what look like
> blisters under the eyes are also common. In the angels and discus the
> bacteria looks like thick gray body slim on the sides of the fish and
> species clamp their fins and shimmy. Small fish die within hours or a day.
> I have found that a drug with furanace (spelling?) in it works
> good. I use Jungle's Pond Fungus Eliminator or another one called Furacyn.
> Both work. I double the dose, change 50-75% of the water daily and
> each day for 3 -5 days. If the fish already shows signs of the disease,
> except in angels and discus, it is usually finished, but the treatment
> to stop it before it gets started in the other fish. I usually remove the
> obviously sick ones before they die and treat the remaining healthy
> ones so that the healthy looking ones won't eat the dead ones -- although
> they usually don't feel like eating.
> Furanace seems ok with most plants. Java Fern does not like it though
> and I have heard Anubias does not either -- although mine do ok.
> I hope this helps. There is no science here, just trial and error
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