Re:columnaris

["Daniel S. Katz" <dskatz at optonline_net>]

Hi Robert, what are the symptoms of the columnaris disease you mentioned?
Too often I have seen some of my Simpsonichthys develop what looks like a
small "wound" , usually on the side of the fish, near the gills.  That
"wounding" seems to spread out to the rest of the fish in the tank and the
nest thing that happens is premature deaths.  Does that sound like
columnaris?  If so, how do you treat it and does your treatment affect the
plants in the tank?
Dan Katz

----- Original Message -----
From: <RuevenM at aol_com>
To: <killietalk at aka_org>
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 10:49 PM
Subject: Skinny Notho females


> Hi All,
>
>         Thanks for all the help. I am glad to see that others have found
> flubendazole to be a godsend. When Gary Harmon-Hobbs told me about it
early
> last year and a friend here gave me some to get rid of hydra, I was
stunned
> at how well it worked. It also indirectly cured, at that time, several
female
> Xiphophorus nezahualcoyotl that I had isolated with livebearer wasting
> disease. I treated their tank for hydra and a few days later they started
> putting on weight. My friend here used it to treat internal parasites in
> Apistos -- their wasting disease. The Apisto people came up with the 1/2
tsp
> per 30 gallons dose, but I have always used a bit more. Now it seems that
> almost 2 tsps per 30 gallons is the effective dose (Barry's and Dan's
emails).
>     My problem has now appeared in a tank of F. arnoldi and in some
> Xiphophorus clemencae. With the Nothos it looks like most of the females
have
> an internal parasite, but a couple had what I feel was columnaris too --
the
> two that died. They had all the external behavior of a columnaris
infection.
> Two males had columnaris, one is alive still. Most of the males look 100%
ok.
> I have 2 tsp of flubendazole 5% in the 30 gallon tank, furacyn and 2 tsp
of
> salt per gallon. (The baby brine shrimp stays alive ALL day now!). The
water
> is now hard and alkaline and the box filter is trickling out air. I will
do
> 50% water changes daily and re-treat for 5 days. I have gotten the
> temperature down to 77F and will try for 75F with a fan directly on the
tank.
>     The arnoldi have obvious columnaris -- some bloat and white patches on
> the body. I destroyed 10 that showed the disease and treated the rest --
> flubendazole for the thin females and furacyn for the bacteria -- no salt
and
> the water is soft and acid. I have lowered their temperature to 75F with
open
> tops and lowered water level.
>       I have added new nets and a new siphon hose so I can isolate the
> infection. I don't know where it came from but have 5 theories:
> 1.  from pure and simple heat stress.
> 2. from overfeeding blackworms.
> 3. from some latipinna green sailfin mollies that I got and one male died
of
> columnaris but all the rest were fine and their fry are fine.
> 4. from my local fish store.
> 5. a combo of the above.
>
>    Now, good news, the Betta strohi I asked about have already spawned
after
> just one week. The male looks like he swallowed a small marble. Wish me
luck.
> What do I do with mouthbrooding bettas? Separate the sexes now?
>
> Robert
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