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Re: Dark Substrate, Estes gravel



Thanks, RJ (and all others), I'm going to be looking for
basalt that hasn't been sprayed with herbicide to fill in the
top layers of my tanks. I'm using peat only for intermittent
media for filtration.
Bill
forest at copper_net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tranquility Base" <TranquilityBase at NetZero_Net>
To: <killietalk at aka_org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 12:49 AM
Subject: RE: Dark Substrate, Estes gravel


> Hi Bill,
>
> I use the estees black marine sand to spawn Nothos in. Works a treat.
> Eventually the stuff does fade. I would not endorse cleaning it with
muratic
> acid though. Even boiling it will accelerate the paint removal.
>
> There is a risk of peat constantly softening the water and driving down
the
> ph. As far as conditioning water goes, I like the idea of peat. As far as
> using it as a substrate, I have my doubts, especially if you are remiss
> about water changes.
>
> I use crushed lava rock in my plant pots. I have not done an entire tank
> bottom with it but it is dark and a great site for bacteria to colonize.
It
> should work just fine.
>
>
> Peace,
>
> ~RJ~
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-killietalk at aka_org [mailto:owner-killietalk at aka_org]On
> Behalf Of William Ruyle
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 12:19 PM
> To: killietalk at aka_org
> Subject: Dark Substrate, Estes gravel
>
>
> Lee writes:
> > No, but Estes has several black and other dark colored gravels. For
> example,
> >
> > http://www.petluvers.com/estesultrareefmarinesandblack.html
> >
> > Lee Harper
> > Media, PA
>
> Most of the Estes products I've seen in the LFS have an
> epoxy-type lacquer on them that lends an unnatural appearance in the tank
> (lighting glints off of it rilly well). I remember some sad tidings, I
think
> it was the "let's-cycle-a-new-fishless-tank-using-ammonia-crowd" or the
> "Muriatic Acid Gang" (MAG, RJ chairs that organization<wink>.) Anyhoo, the
> coating came off and made for quite a mess. Yeah, it was someone using
> muriatic acid to check for lime, etc, concerning ph spikes. Too bad,
'cause
> they offer it in a dark rainbow of colors. I'll check out the site but
want
> something to use for a permanent, planted, setup. Peat's nice, gives a
> glimpse of heaven, but a pretty long stare into hell come
> maintenance/cleanup time.
> Bill
>
>
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