Dave you know that mosquito larvae are the best killie food going! The red wiggling little worms are bloodworms. The only real danger with outdoor cultures is dragenfly eggs and larvae. Been there and done that JoeScanlan --------------- See http://www.aka.org/AKA/subkillietalk.html to unsubscribe Join the AKA at http://www.aka.org/AKA/Applic.htm