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Re: Ammonia-neutralizing Products
I suppose I am one the most fortunate people left ... my water supply is
treated only with hypochlorine - no chloramines - no florides - no addball
kill the bugs treatments. Its only been a couple years here where we have
had the chloine added. I do prefer novaqua anyway, but tend to just allow
the water 48 hours or so of bubbling before adding to my tanks.
Okay reason behind those comments: I have been a proponent of live foods
for years and rarely even use frozen ones. However, A couple years ago, I
started using Amquel more often and I would always lose my daphnia cultures
after Amquel became part of the program. It took me awhile, but finally I
stopped using Amquel and I have been able to maintain the cultures for a
much longer period of time (as long as I took care of it). I am certain
something in Amquel affects the 'newly-hatched/released' Daphnia. It does
not seem to kill the adults, they live a full lifespan, but I was never able
to get the next generation. I don't know if that helps, but its an opinion.
BTW - I now use Rainwater almost exclusively for daphnia - I collect daphnia
locally this time or year (well in a couple weeks) and obviously they are
doing well in the local rainwater, so why change what they exist in.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wright Huntley" <jwwiii at pacbell_net>
To: <killietalk at AKA_Org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: Ammonia-neutralizing Products
> I'm totally ignorant of the " "solid" ammonia-neutralizing products (such
as
> Marineland's White Diamond crystals)" that Allan talks about.
>
> See my reply to his original note for why I didn't test any further. It
> would be a major research project for a big University budget to test
> Euglena, Rotifers, Paramecia, and all the other microcritters we call
> "infusoria" for little real benefit. It was easier to use carbon-filtered
> water and just not worry about how partial-toxicity was affecting the
stuff
> the babies like to feed on.
>
> *Not* treating the water in my Daphnia barrel was also the cure for those
> mysterious crashes I had been having.
>
> I still consider "Amquel" or other similar products essential for safe
> shipping.
>
> Wright
>
> Joseph Bulterman wrote:
> >
> > I am not aware of any documented tests that have been
> > done on Amquel to support the idea that it kills small
> > aquatic life. I think that some controlled tests
> > should be done. It would be interesting to know if
> > using the exact recommended amount kills aquatic life,
> > what happens when 1/2 the recommended dose is used,
> > and what happens when the "if one will do it, two will
> > do it better" style of administration is applied. I
> > have read on this list where some folks think it's
> > harmful but maybe some additional testing might be
> > worthwhile. I did some frozen daphnia testing
> > recently; anyone interested in picking up the ball on
> > this one?
> >
> > --- Allan Semeit <azkillie at quixnet_net> wrote:
> > > If the liquid chlorine/chloramine/ammonia removing
> > > products (such as
> > > Kordon's Amquel, etc.) kill off small aquatic life
> > > like infusoria and baby
> > > brine shrimp, do the "solid" ammonia-neutralizing
> > > products (such as
> > > Marineland's White Diamond crystals) have the same
> > > effect?
> > >
> > >
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