Norm Ruebsamen is the authority on this fish. Also check out pages in AquaLog Killis volume 3. Keep them TIGHTLY covered. Mine went through an 1/8 inch space. Lee Harper --------------- See http://www.aka.org/AKA/subkillietalk.html to unsubscribe Join the AKA at http://www.aka.org/AKA/Applic.htm