Try feeding them baby food sweet potatoes. That's what I feed and it works well. I keep three 10 gallon tanks going year round and feed from them daily. I get all I need this way. Change water weekly -- moderately hard and moderately alkaline. Robert E. --------------- See http://www.aka.org/AKA/subkillietalk.html to unsubscribe Join the AKA at http://www.aka.org/AKA/Applic.htm