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Re: KillieTalk Digest V3 #1613
You have completely misunderstood my message- or I have poorly
expressed my idea. At any rate, I meant that the fish would be auctioned as
the 1,207th fish entered in the show. The class number would be irrelevent.
In my example, the Class 5 fish with class entry bb might well be fish
number 879. I intended to suggest auctioning fish by whatever entry number
they receive. I figure most breeders would have a mix of species rather
than bunches of the same, so auctioning by their entry number would also
guarantee mixed fish in the auction- which I tend to favor.
Jay Moylan
----- Original Message -----
From: "matt kaufman" <mek at eclipse_net>
To: <KillieTalk at AKA_Org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: KillieTalk Digest V3 #1613
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 21:20:36 -0400
> > From: "Jay-Scott Moylan" <sifumoylan at adelphia_net>
> > Subject: Re: Convention St. Louis Memorial Day Weekend 2002
> >
> > Tom said,
> >
> > First: If you use a Class ID - then to have an organized auction you
> > would be required to auction by class - because the standard order is
> > Class# - Entry Number (ie: Class 5 Entry 7) Thus to organize the
list -
> > you are required to auction the class completely before moving on.
> >
> > Why does that have to be standard? Why not Convention
entry/auction
> > #, followed by class# and class entry letter a-z, aa-zz, aaa-zzz?
> >
> > For example: Fish #1,207 - Class 5 - entry cc. This would then
the
> > 1,207th fish registered at the convention. It would compete in Class 5.
It
> > would be 29th fish entered into Class 5 (i.e. cc). This would then be
lot
> > #1,207 in a really BIG auction.
> >
> > Jay Moylan
>
>
> Aggh.
>
> Umm, as attendee and/or worker at the last 10 AKA conventions plus a
> couple
> of local club weekends (including this year's ACA convention), a few
> WCW's and
> innumerable local club auctions, you have to realize that suggesting
> sorting, auctioning
> by class (which I personally despise as I have to sit through lots and
> lots of classes
> that I don't care about), auctioning by fuzzy entry number in order by
> class and
> so forth would prevent me from helping run such an auction or
> convention. Too much
> work for no benefit to the club or the auction attendees, and it'll
> drive the prices
> down.
>
> I think Tom G.s and others suggestions are right on; the
> convention is your best opportunity to see and acquire incredibly rare
> fish, and it's
> a *ton* of work for the local club. The auction is your chance to pay
> very little
> for something rare (I still miss the A. franzwerneri I got in LA in 1993
> for $8 for
> a pair because no one was paying attention) or too much for somethig
> common ( I don't mind having been outbid at
> $105 for the first pair of Aplo. lineatus "Gold" in 1994 I ever saw)
>
> It's fun, it supports AKA, and making it harder for a local
> club to run will mean AKA will regularly face the problem of no one
> offering to
> run the convention.
>
> Personally, I'd like to see the N&RS fish go first or be the most common
> lots in
> the earliest groups when people pay the most, and then auction at
> random. The auction
> should go as fast as possible, with the goal of getting the highest
> possible price
> for the fish.
>
> Matt
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