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RE: Convention St. Louis Memorial Day Weekend 2002



I think there are people here who really do not realize how or what is done 
with the registration of fish for the show/auction.  Even with a computer 
program designed to give individual numbers to each entry you have two 
major things to consider.

   First: If you use a Class ID - then to have an organized auction you 
would be required to auction by class - because the standard order is 
Class# - Entry Number  (ie: Class 5 Entry 7)  Thus to organize the list - 
you are required to auction the class completely before moving on.

Second:  If you use a system where each fish entered is given a number 
beginning at 1 for the first fish entered and continuing until you have 
400-500 entries - then what you have is this:  All the fish are auctioned 
from a single breeder at a time (in other words - I enter 10 fish in the 
show - I am numbers 1-10.)  Now someone has to set up a system (be it boxes 
or otherwise) for the people bagging the fish to place the entries in order 
and every person working on bagging has to make sure they do it right.  I 
don't know about you - but I don't want to spend all morning double and 
triple checking the order of the bags.  It could be done - but it is asking 
alot of extra work for a few people - the ones responsible and have to face 
the BS if something goes wrong.

Third:  Somewhere along the road - people seem to think there is some 
powerful Computer Program that does all the work for the poor humans behind 
the keyboard.  I can tell you in 1998 - I did not see anything of the 
speakers - I literally hurt my eyes staring at a computer screen for well 
over 100 hours that weekend and that does not take into account the 
hundreds of hours trying to write the database to make the work easier on 
everyone.  (whether it helped or not is not the discussion).  Mike J. is 
absolutely correct in the difficulties - I could detail a few more.

Please - always remember - the committee putting on the convention works 
their tails off and by adding additional work on them - in reality we are 
creating a long term problem - a period in which the hobby seems less fun - 
sometimes it lasts for several years.  We are all volunteers - and so don't 
look for added work please! <chuckles>





At 10:14 AM 10/3/01 -0700, you wrote:
>Bill,
>I like the ideas you presented here.
>I would suggest one refinement that might get us the best of both worlds,
>which is a group of random bags of fish in predictable block order, or in
>reality, a semi-random order [is there such a thing?].


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