Hi folks! The reason I recommended the local homebrew shop is that yes, they mostly deal with glass carboys. They are the same price, if not cheaper than plastic. Relax, Don't Worry! Have a homebrew while doing water changes! Chris Wetmore AKA #8232 --------------- See http://www.aka.org/AKA/subkillietalk.html to unsubscribe Join the AKA at http://www.aka.org/AKA/Applic.htm