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Re: List problems (was Re: Fw: pic of piedmont shiner in [a bit off)

 Is your delete button not functional? If it is then use it as you have
advised in the past!
erny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wright Huntley" <wrighthuntley at hotmail_com>
To: <killietalk at aka_org>
Cc: <jwwiii at pacbell_net>
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 12:25 PM
Subject: List problems (was Re: Fw: pic of piedmont shiner in [a bit off)


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> >From: Jim Eller Reply-To: killietalk at aka_org To: KillieTalk at AKA_Org
> >Subject: Re: Fw: pic of piedmont shiner in [a bit off Date: Thu, 30 Aug
> >2001 15:11:20 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Re: Fw: pic of piedmont shiner in [a bit off
> >
> >This is what the picture looked like to many of us. TEXT is best MIME and
> >HTML suck! This list is getting to be a real mess.
>
> Exactly why the list has become somewhat useless to me. The content
> signal-to-noise ratio has deteriorated, and that garbage formatting is
most
> unfriendly to many participants, particularly all digest subscribers.
>
> May I suggest folks always consider the archive-search results of the
> subject line and consider maybe changing it on all responses as needed?
>
> We have tried to educate folks about sending MIME, HTML, attachments, etc.
> but the results have been most discouraging. Rudeness is rampant and
growing
> in that area. Plain text, sans attachments, is the *only* courteous way to
> post to any digested list.
>
> I scan the subject lines. If one is interesting, I check the sender. If it
> isn't an egregious offender (subject lines habitually unchanged, HTML,
MIME
> o/e) I may open it for a quick scan, and may even respond to a good
> question. Otherwise, Hotmail becomes Trashmail, each morning.
>
> Basically, at least 80% of the list has become worthless, which is most
> unfortunate for the hobby. I don't know the answer. Private communications
> with the offenders doesn't seem to work, nor does public flaming. Barry
has
> too much important stuff to do to play traffic cop, here.
>
> Somehow we need to improve awareness that each posting or reply goes to
many
> *hundreds* of mailboxes, and a great many of those cannot read PC-specific
> codes like MIME and HTML.
>
> Is the subject even possibly of interest to at least 50 or so of those? If
> not, it takes only a few seconds to change the "To:" line to the
individual,
> instead of the list. If your "Headers" are set to normal (never brief) you
> can see the individual's e-mail address right on the "From:" line. Use it.
I
> do, on many answers, these days. It cuts the clutter when the answers are
> already in the archives, in many places.
>
> Folks with AOL 6 o/e can get a free Hotmail account like this one for list
> business. The web interface is, admittedly, a pain, but at least it
permits
> posting in plain text. All others can find the settings right in their
> e-mail editor for sending plain text (US ASCII) to lists. It is not rocket
> science. It is good manners.
>
> If you really need a specific answer from me, my private box at
> jwwiii at pacbell_net is a likelier place to get my attention, BTW. Personal
> messages to my Hotmail account can easily be overlooked and trashed
without
> reading. Friends may want to change it in their address books.
>
> SERMON MODE <OFF>
>
> Wright
>
> --
> Wright Huntley    Palo Alto CA USA    650 856-4245
> aka j. wellington wheelbase iii at pacbell dot net
>
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