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Re: Muscle rot



I have found columnaris to also respond to potassium chromate if given soon
enough, i.e., as soon as the first small mark in the skin appears. After
that, it spreads so fast that it is too late.

----- Original Message -----
From: Fernando Ręgo Rodrigues <fanan_rod at hotmail_com>
To: <killietalk at aka_org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 5:08 AM
Subject: Re: Muscle rot


> Hi,
>
> I have used Potassium Permanganate to treat Columnaris bacteria. (mouth
> fungus).
> My fish was cured atfer one bath and a lot of water changes with some
salt.
> FR.
>
> > >Remember, Potassium Permanganate just oxidizes or cleans the exterior
of
> > >the
> > >fish.  It dissolves everything, both good and bad tissue.
> >
> > This differs from my understanding of it. KMn04 basically is a *tanning*
> > agent, and tends to toughen and cross-link organic molecules,
particularly
> > proteins. That's fine on skin, but very rough on gills and more delicate
> > membranes. The tradeoff isn't always obvious.
> >
> >
> > >An antibiotic is
> > >probably still in order and I use for these symptoms, FURAN-2, made by
> > >Aquarium Pharmaceuticals.  I double the dose for really sick fish and
use
> > >heavy airstone aeration with no filter.  Daily water changes are needed
> and
> > >watch for ammonia buildup in a non filtered tank as you know what
ammonia
> > >can do to an already stressed fish.
> >
> > The original description sounds a whole lot like Fish Tuberculosis, and
> > random use of antibiotics is to be heartily discouraged for such
problems.
> > [Mine came in with commercial Dwarf Gouramis, BTW.]
> >
> > By the time I was infected, the Docs were down to only three antibiotics
> > that were even possible cures, but each had resistant strains of
> > *Mycobacterium marinum*. The one I took (Biaxin) was $6 a pill, twice a
> day,
> > for over 6 months to get rid of it.
> >
> > Wright
> >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: owner-killietalk at aka_org [mailto:owner-killietalk at aka_org]On
> > >Behalf Of Doug Karpa-Wilson
> > >Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 8:18 AM
> > >To: killietalk at aka_org
> > >Subject: Re: Muscle rot
> > >
> > >
> > >This sounds to me very much like an aeromonas infection.  It's
reasonably
> > >common in gouramis and an antibiotic  resistant version has been making
> the
> > >rounds.  I've not found anything that was quite satisfactory in
treating
> > >it, but you can use some aquatronics meds ( the only OTC meds with the
> > >right ingredients and the right dosage I've found) such as neomycin to
> > >control it, and possibly cure it.  I never tried the potassium
> permanganate
> > >idea, but it sound s like it might help.  Mostly, I got to just putting
> > >fish with it down right away since I found it quite contagious and very
> > >fatal.  let's hope that's not what you have, altough it sounds exactly
> like
> > >it.  I had to steer clear of all anabantoids for about a year after I
had
> > >it and it wiped me out.
> > >
> > >Doug
> > >
> > > >Hi all,
> > > > I recently picked up some P. bitteri from an lfs. A couple of the
> > > >fish have developed a rather horrible malady. It began with a light
> spot
> > > >developing in the dorsal
> > > >area. This gradually developed into an open sore whic gradually
> deepened
> > > >appearing to eat away the muscle. Anyone had this before or know the
> > > >cause/treatment?
> > > > Tia,
> > > >     Guy.
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >Doug Karpa-Wilson
> > >1821 S. Maxwell St.
> > >Bloomington, IN 47401
> > >
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