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RE: Muscle rot
>From: "Joe Bulterman" <jbulterman at earthlink_net>
>Reply-To: killietalk at aka_org
>To: <killietalk at aka_org>
>Subject: RE: Muscle rot
>Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 19:11:47 -0400
>
>Remember, Potassium Permanganate just oxidizes or cleans the exterior of
>the
>fish. It dissolves everything, both good and bad tissue.
This differs from my understanding of it. KMn04 basically is a *tanning*
agent, and tends to toughen and cross-link organic molecules, particularly
proteins. That's fine on skin, but very rough on gills and more delicate
membranes. The tradeoff isn't always obvious.
>An antibiotic is
>probably still in order and I use for these symptoms, FURAN-2, made by
>Aquarium Pharmaceuticals. I double the dose for really sick fish and use
>heavy airstone aeration with no filter. Daily water changes are needed and
>watch for ammonia buildup in a non filtered tank as you know what ammonia
>can do to an already stressed fish.
The original description sounds a whole lot like Fish Tuberculosis, and
random use of antibiotics is to be heartily discouraged for such problems.
[Mine came in with commercial Dwarf Gouramis, BTW.]
By the time I was infected, the Docs were down to only three antibiotics
that were even possible cures, but each had resistant strains of
*Mycobacterium marinum*. The one I took (Biaxin) was $6 a pill, twice a day,
for over 6 months to get rid of it.
Wright
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-killietalk at aka_org [mailto:owner-killietalk at aka_org]On
>Behalf Of Doug Karpa-Wilson
>Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 8:18 AM
>To: killietalk at aka_org
>Subject: Re: Muscle rot
>
>
>This sounds to me very much like an aeromonas infection. It's reasonably
>common in gouramis and an antibiotic resistant version has been making the
>rounds. I've not found anything that was quite satisfactory in treating
>it, but you can use some aquatronics meds ( the only OTC meds with the
>right ingredients and the right dosage I've found) such as neomycin to
>control it, and possibly cure it. I never tried the potassium permanganate
>idea, but it sound s like it might help. Mostly, I got to just putting
>fish with it down right away since I found it quite contagious and very
>fatal. let's hope that's not what you have, altough it sounds exactly like
>it. I had to steer clear of all anabantoids for about a year after I had
>it and it wiped me out.
>
>Doug
>
> >Hi all,
> > I recently picked up some P. bitteri from an lfs. A couple of the
> >fish have developed a rather horrible malady. It began with a light spot
> >developing in the dorsal
> >area. This gradually developed into an open sore whic gradually deepened
> >appearing to eat away the muscle. Anyone had this before or know the
> >cause/treatment?
> > Tia,
> > Guy.
> >
> >
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>
>Doug Karpa-Wilson
>1821 S. Maxwell St.
>Bloomington, IN 47401
>
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