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Re: weighing in



Well said, Boat!
donna
----- Original Message -----
From: "Allen N Sandra" <a.boatman at verizon_net>
To: <KillieTalk at AKA_Org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 4:25 PM
Subject: weighing in


> I think as a new AKA-er and fairly new killifish keeper I am more than
> qualified to say something about non-member status and the availability of
> information.  I was a member of this list for almost a year before
becoming
> a member.  I will tell you one thing, Non-member killifish keepers can
breed
> killifish as well as member killifish keepers.  In fact I'll go out on a
> limb and say that some of the people researching killifish and their
> habitats and habits are not members of the AKA, DKG, CKA, SKS, IKA, NZAKA,
> NAKA, or any other killifish organization.  There are people out there
that
> just like keeping fish without the politics involved in killi keeping, as
> well.
>
> I wanted to get involved in a "Species Maintenance Program."  At the time
I
> had no idea  that the list was even related to an organization (I know
look
> at the friggin page I signed up for the list on).  All I saw was
Killietalk.
> I had bred other fish before and wanted to try my hand at killifish.  I
was
> abruptly told by certain members that SMP events were only AKA associated.
> I had to laugh.  You mean to tell me that only AKA members are allowed to,
> or have the ability to, raise and maintain a particular species of fish?
I
> even offered to pay for the fish.  No dice.  It was a real turnoff.
> However, being open minded, I stuck around.  I had people contact me
offline
> to offer me fish if I would breed and distribute them locally, and abroad,
> even though I am not a member.  I turned them down because I had never
heard
> of the fish they were offering and wanted to be aware of the fish I would
be
> breeding, before making commitments.  I also became a member of the
Suncoast
> Killifish Society (SKS).  Now there's a brain trust of a group.....WOW!!!
> Charlie Nunziata, Harry Specht, Bill shields, Jim Greenwald, and many
> more....WOW!!!   They helped me and guided me, even though I wasn't a
member
> of the AKA.  (and at that time there were no fees for the SKS, so there
was
> no personal gain to be had for helping Allen Boatman, a silly rift lake
> cichlid fanatic, get into killifish.)  Catherine Carney sent me fish eggs
> free of any kind of reimbursement.  I now MAINTAIN 4 species ( at three to
> four tanks per species) of killifish and breed a total of about 12 species
> in all (not to mention the ones I keep and am not breeding yet.)
>
> I joined the AKA in February and purchased about 4 of the books and so on.
> The reason was the generous and encouraging AKA people.  They helped
instead
> of rebuffed.  They nurtured, and educated me PRIOR to me being an AKA
> member.  Those are the people that I became an AKA member because.  The
> incubation times?  Ok people if you want information, just search the web.
> You want it bad enough?  You will find it, or at least find people who
will
> share it MEMBERSHIP or NO MEMBERSHIP!!!  Richard Sexton has a SAA chart on
> his International Killifish Page.
> http://killifish.vrx.net/breeding/annuals/times/.  True it doesn't contain
> temps and stuff like that, but Chika does.
>
> People do this stuff cause it is fun, not cause they are going to make a
> career of researching, in which they will do what it takes, even if it
means
> buying a stinking membership.....sheeesh.
>
> Shields up!!!
>
> Boat
>
> Allen "Boat" Boatman
> Tampa, FL
> TBAS, SKS, AKA 08298, SAA 96
>
>
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