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RE: cyclop-eeze



Hi Robert,
 
I bought a container of the cyclop-eeze some time back and tried it on FIL fry. I had not intended to run this test, but my microworm culture had gone pretty much south due to major neglect and because I had so few microworms left (about 6 of them) it took a while to get another culture going. I suppose that I could have hatched some BBS or fed some vinegar eels but I had the cyclop-eeze on hand so I figured I would try it.
 
It looked like all of the FIL ate the cyclop-eeze, over three weeks about 50% of the fry died the others just did not noticeably grow. Once the microworms were back on line the fish doubled their size in just a few days and fatalities stopped. 
 
I have continued to use cyclop-eeze as a supplement to live foods some killies will eat it others will not. Fp. species and Aphy's seem more likely to take it than some Nothos.
 
So although I believe that it can be a useful supplement if your BBS are not producing or if your microworms crash or you are short on time. But I would not repeat my cyclop-eeze experiment.  I imagine that results will vary to one degree or another.  Some fish will fare better than others but I keep thinking that this product is not the substitute for BBS we are looking for.
 
I understand that it also comes frozen, but then so does BBS. I tried frozen BBS with bettas some time back, I lost all of the fry.They also grew very little and then just died off.
 
So far I do not think that there is a better fry food than BBS, although microworms and vinegar eels come close.
 
I believe it was Matt Kaufman who told me that healthy adult killies start with healthy fry and for the healthiest fry you need BBS. I think he was most likely right here. I have raised many killie fry (Aphy's Rivs and Fp's) on microworms only and they have grown into healthy adults but they did grow noticeably slower.  As I hatch Nothos in large batches, I usually hatch BBS for their first 3 weeks then switch them to white and grindel worms.
 
By the way I just had a single Riv. Agilae hatch and as it looked very small I figured I would try my new paramecium culture on it. It worked a treat. I had nice first week growth and have moved the fish on to microworms, still doing well. I will not hatch BBS for only one fish. I think that paramecium may be the most overlooked fry food. 
 
 
Best regards,
 
~RJ~ 
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-killietalk at aka_org [mailto:owner-killietalk at aka_org]On Behalf Of Rjga at aol_com
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 9:58 AM
To: killietalk at aka_org
Subject: Re: cyclop-eeze

I did look at the Argent nutritional analysis report - and the prices - that
kind of put me off.

Robert J. Goldstein, Ph.D.
Robert J. Goldstein & Associates, Inc.
Environmental Consultants
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