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Re: SJO



Hello,

Yes, SJO can be water incubate.  It will take some eggs 15 days, some 20 
days, some a month, some longer to hatch out.  Really not a great option for 
a species as voracius as SJO.  I ended up with only one fry from that batch 
with in a month, but that biggest one grow real quick, alright.  I guess I 
don't have to tell you where all other smaller fry gone.

The way I now ended up with is to water incubate them in Acriflavine 
solution for a week.  I let all those bad eggs gone  bad then transfer all 
the good one  to peat incubate for another month before I hacth them out.  
The fry size is a lot more closer than water incubate that make taking care 
of them a lot easier.  Oh, I use sinking mop and I hand pick my eggs with 
out any problem.

Regards,
Nonn Panitvong
http://www.panitvong.com
http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/thaikilli


From: John Newbury <getsmart at teleport_com>
Reply-To: killietalk at aka_org
To: <killietalk at aka_org>
Subject: Re: SJO
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 14:33:05 +0800

on 6/8/01 4:05 AM, FishBoy20 at cs_com at FishBoy20 at cs_com wrote:

          They can be water incubated but it would be better if you 
sepearted
out either the parents or fry. The parents would be easier though. As stated
in another email, 4-6 weeks on incubation depending on temperature.

                 Jeremy Basch

I recall there being debate over the care of SJO eggs while water incubating
them. They die off after a day or two in my fishroom, I think that they need
to have fresh water  changes and aeration to survive. I have since made it
habit to peat incubate my SJO eggs, and even then, the yield is very low in
relation to other FP species that I breed. I have never had success myself
with leaving the eggs in the tank, they die off, unless I remove them  and
keep them in damp peat.
I have seen reports of breeders who could collect several hundred eggs, yet
have zero hatch. I too have a bad yields.
Anything I can do to up the odds the better, I am still trying to figure
this one out, but I have ruled out water incubation as a viable option. I
also never touch the eggs with my hands. I now get many more fry every week
from my fish. I also found that as the fish matured the fertility increased,
eggs were not crushed by removing the mop from the tank and there were fewer
white eggs in the mop. Now I have too many sjo's and dont know what to do...
John

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