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FW: KillieTalk Digest V3 #1154
I quess I've been playing the devils advocate but I'm not opposed to an
internet solution at all. I just didn't really see a pressing need for it.
Jay had a good point on why it would be useful. If you're going to consider
an e-based F&EL, Jaka, etc you should look at whether the AKA has the
resources to set up such a system and then if they can maintain it with just
volunteers running it.
If you can answer yes to both of those, then look at the cost vs benefits of
implementing the system. What are the costs to set up the system (and does
the AKA have the finances available) plus any additional cost that would be
involved like the increased cost in printing the hard copy version for
computerless AKA members vs the benefits in terms of increasing the flow of
species, maintaining rare, uncommon speceis, gaining new members, spreading
the killie religion etc.
If the cost are less then the benefits, then the last thing to look at would
be what other projects you would have to give up to implement this. Once
you have gathered all that info put it to the membership to vote on. That's
assuming someone has time to gather all of this info in the first place.
Jay's scenario on why an e-solution would help is a good one. I'm not sure
how often that would arise or if just sending a message to Killie talk
wouldn't solve it, but like I said I'm not opposed to an internent solution,
after all I got back into the hobby by finding the AKA site on the web.
In parched Jax.
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 00:28:27 -0400
From: "Jay-Scott Moylan" <moylan at emi_net>
Subject: Re: Information Age Holdback Nonsense
I'll give you one example of why it would be usefull. Suppose you
have always dreamed of getting a particular species. Finally, you have a
chance at a pair at an auction, but you have no idea where they came from.
You set them up. Everything is cool. Then, one of the pair dies. They
were already fully grown when you got them. By FEL, you have to post an add
for a replacement. If you miss the deadline by a day or two, you must wait
another whole month for your add to even appear! Then, you call the person
offering a replacement. You send a box, he returns it with your fish. You
are happy to receive it, but lament the fact the survivor in your original
pair has now died too during the two months or more it takes for all this to
Or.... Maybe you just want to sell your fish in the next two weeks
instead of the next two months. Why should everyone be limited to the snail
mail pace just because YOU are happy and comfortable with things that happen
slowly. I am not saying you can't, or shouldn't have the printed FEL if you
want. I'm just saying that internet people should also have the more modern
method at their disposal as well.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve DeMarle" <sdemarle at xomed_com>
To: "'killie list'" <KillieTalk at aka_org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 8:27 AM
Subject: Information Age Holdback Nonsense
> I cann't see why it is so urgent to have an online F&EL that's updated
> daily. I've only recently returned to raising killie but it seems to me
> that this hobby isn't one that lends itself to immediate gratification.
> takes time to gain the skills in raising killies, annual eggs take months
> hatch, even starting a daphnia culture can take a couple of weeks if you
> have to start from scratch. On top of that very few people will ship for
> five months of the year because of winter weather. Finally how many fish
> are you actually going to buy anyways. Right now I think I can fit one
> maybe two more species in, but after that I'm pretty close to maxed out.
> I do get another species it will be with a lot of thought and
> It won't be a rush buy by any means. I do buy many things over the
> internet, books, CD's, sports equipment, some animals, but don't see why
> ordering killies is so time sensitive that it requires an e-solution.
> Just my 2cents
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