Re: Aphyosemion arnoldi

[Tom Grady <tgrady at twcny_rr.com>]

Knowing Gary is probably sitting in a jail in Quebec City right now 
<chuckles>, I thought I'd kinda help move along the arnoldi discussion for 
him until he returns to the real world <uhm Sorry Gary - couldn't resist 
the chance - Folks - Gary is at the protests for the Hemispheric Free Trade 
meeting.>

Anyway - I was among those who Gary passed arnoldi on to.  Species 
Maintenance Committee - so yes the AKA was semi-aware and we were hoping to 
pass along enough to Fred for N&SRC, but unfortunately, the imports were 
incredibly hard to work with.    I used every techinique I could think of - 
from standard fundulopanchax over wet peat - put away until eyed-up to 
water incubation to full dried peat incubation for 3 months etc.  A large 
portion of the eggs simply died - infertile or whatever.  I got through one 
generation also.   It was a lovely fish however and maybe Gary and I can 
talk Oliver to try another shipment.  Keep in mind, there may be a few 
minor technicalities - like the cost.  Much as I like Oliver - he is in 
business and if my memory is accurate - a box of the Fp. arnoldi was $600 
US at the time and the pairs turned out to be $30+ a pair once costs were 
covered had we purchased the fish.  So we are only talking about 20 pairs 
at the time of importation.  Now - I had nothing to do with the shipment - 
it was all Oliver and Gary - I just was able to get a pair from Gary.  Now 
I did not have the velvet problem Gary had - so I can't comment on that.

Arnoldi close to thierryi or nothos - maybe a little - I found the fish 
very much like Fp. robertsoni.

Would I like to get the fish again - You betcha!  I love a good challenge, 
but I would definitely want to group spawn them in a large tank.  I suspect 
that technique and alot of research of the locality where it was collected 
might yield some results.

Tom

At Saturday 09:46 AM 4/21/01, you wrote:
>Hi Gary,
>
>         That is an interesting story. I am surprised the AKA N&RSC did not
>get wind of this importation of F. arnoldi and organize a large shipment for
>the AKA itself. I assume the importer was Lucanus? Here is one of the
>legendary fish of the killie hobby -- a fish that maybe a handful of people
>have ever seen in the flesh and the AKA misses the chance.
>        From what I know, the old Scheel/Hannerz populations from the late
>50's were very hard to breed and probably were never established outside
>Scheel's tanks. The velvet problem is interesting, since the fish seems so
>close to thierryi and then Nothobranchius. I have always wondered why it
>never made it into the hobby since it was described so long ago and comes
>from an area where many other commonly available fish are found. Ulf Hannerz
>and Scheel both did articles on it in the old Aquarium Journal in the late
>50's or early 60's. Hannerz did a long series on collecting in West Africa
>and his trip provided so many of the species on which Scheel built his early
>work. Hannerz was Swedish or Danish and was very young (maybe 21yo) but he
>seems to have disappeared from the hobby.
>
>Robert E.
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