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Re: Shipping fishes

The fish in the bag for a month had fallen behind my bar in the basement un
discovered on the cool floor. On the Female fade away try this . they must
still be eating a little.  Take some daphnia (all killi keepers raise
daphnia) Newly hatched will also work . take a small out in a container add
some pipzine to the daphnia 1/2 capsule Let the daphnia filter feed on the
meds. for 5 minutes then feed them to your fish.it works .Pipzine is made by
Aquatronics . I would say 75% of the killfish bought a a fish auction don't
live 6 months .people buy them because there pretty but have no idea of
water cond. or food requirements ( homosapien factor)Enough----- Original
Message -----
From: "-RJ-" <TranquilityBase at NetZero_Net>
To: <killietalk at aka_org>
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 2:53 AM
Subject: RE: Shipping fishes


> Hi Karl,
>
> Everyone knows what part of Germany Rachovii come from, the DKG Forest of
> course! And the KNP Blacks obviously come from the KNP Black Forest!
>
> Now on to your other point. Are you actually telling all of us that you
> would keep a Notho in a bag without light, air and especially food for a
> month? No doubt that it survived due to the incredable determination that
> develops when plotting revenge. In this case I would have to contradict
your
> point. This fish survived despite the homosapien factor.
>
> OK...I WAS JUST KIDDING.....NO OFFENSE INTENDED!
>
> In my lifetime, I have come to believe that just about anything is
possible.
> But I have transplanted my fair share of Nothos. Some have taken it better
> than others. About two years ago I had an unexpected hospital stay which
> lasted a bit over a week, and despite my wife's claim that she fed them,
> when I returned home over 25% (mostly females) had already stopped eating.
> They faded away over the next two to three weeks. I still believe that
long
> shipping times for these fish are counter-recommended, especially since
the
> eggs are so much easier and cheaper to ship and there is no concern about

> the time it takes.
>
> Another one of my theories holds that Nothos usually do well in the water
> they are hatched and reared in.(assuming of course it is within their
range
> of tolerance)  This way there is no stress inflicted by changes in water
> conditions and foods. I have a friend some distance away with vastly
> different water chemistry.  We both do fairly well with Nothos. We have
> exchanged Nothos from time to time. When he gets mine they usually do
fine.
> But I have not yet succeeded at getting one of his to successfully adapt
to
> my tanks.  Despite the fact that I usually get them hand delivered and
they
> are usually in exelent shape when I get them. Most either will not eat or
> just sicken and die. I don't know if it is a difference in foods, water
> conditions, temperature or just lattatude. I realize that my evidence is
> anicdotal but I have also seen it with other people too.
>
> Despite our differing opinions regarding the likelyhood of the fish's
> survival, I am not sure that we disagree that it would be better to just
> ship eggs.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> -RJ-
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-killietalk at aka_org [mailto:owner-killietalk at aka_org]On
> Behalf Of Karl Doering
> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 8:34 AM
> To: killietalk at aka_org
> Subject: Re: Shipping fishes
>
>
> RJ   What part of Germany did they collect the rachovi.You have some
> interesting theorys on Nothobranchius .I've had notho in a bag over a
month
> lived & reproduced .The only thing that keeps the  fish from reproducing
is
> the homosapien factor----- Original Message -----
> From: "-RJ-" <TranquilityBase at NetZero_Net>
> To: <killietalk at aka_org>
> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 5:54 AM
> Subject: RE: Shipping fishes
>
>
> > I strongly recommend shipping Notho eggs rather than fish. The fish are
> > relatively sensitive to prolonged periods without food. They also are
not
> > real fond of water condition changes. As the incubation time is several

> > months there is no real rush as long as they are kept reasonably warm. I
> > should have some GUE eggs on hand if you are interested. I should be
able
> to
> > ship in about another two weeks or so. (as soon as the weather warms up)
> By
> > the way, you might want to check with your local customs department
about
> > the import of fish or eggs before you lose them in transit.  I might
even
> > have some extra RAC, DKG eggs by them.
> >
> > By the way I did get some N. Ugandensis from Holland which survived a
> > similar trip. The female never started eating again and died within two
> > weeks.  With Nothos the question is not whether they will get there
alive,
> > but rather whether they will ever start to eat once they get there.
> > Stressed Nothos are also super sensitive to velvet and an assortment of
> > other illnesses.
> >
> > Let me know off list if you are interested.
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> >
> > -RJ-
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-killietalk at aka_org [mailto:owner-killietalk at aka_org]On
> > Behalf Of cjpgomes at uol_com.br
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 4:57 AM
> > To: killietalk at aka_org
> > Subject: Shipping fishes
> >
> >
> > I apologize to repeat a question I know was posted some times ago. But,
I
> > has just finished the setup of a new tank and I'd like to have some
Nothos
> > and this fishes are not commom or easy to find at Brazilian aquarium
> stores.
> >
> > Does anyone have shipped or received fishes that had flight over the
ocean
> > for 12 hours and had been bagged for 2 or 3 days? (my last FEDEX express
> > order - a book - take 4 days to arrive). Will the fishes survive? What
> about
> > eggs?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Carlos
> > ps.: Falcão, if I'm not wrong you had this experience. I apologize have
> not
> > sent a mail for you, but my micro is out of service and in this one I
> don't
> > have your e-mail. Cheers.
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