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RE: Shipping fishes
Hi Karl,
Everyone knows what part of Germany Rachovii come from, the DKG Forest of
course! And the KNP Blacks obviously come from the KNP Black Forest!
Now on to your other point. Are you actually telling all of us that you
would keep a Notho in a bag without light, air and especially food for a
month? No doubt that it survived due to the incredable determination that
develops when plotting revenge. In this case I would have to contradict your
point. This fish survived despite the homosapien factor.
OK...I WAS JUST KIDDING.....NO OFFENSE INTENDED!
In my lifetime, I have come to believe that just about anything is possible.
But I have transplanted my fair share of Nothos. Some have taken it better
than others. About two years ago I had an unexpected hospital stay which
lasted a bit over a week, and despite my wife's claim that she fed them,
when I returned home over 25% (mostly females) had already stopped eating.
They faded away over the next two to three weeks. I still believe that long
shipping times for these fish are counter-recommended, especially since the
eggs are so much easier and cheaper to ship and there is no concern about
the time it takes.
Another one of my theories holds that Nothos usually do well in the water
they are hatched and reared in.(assuming of course it is within their range
of tolerance) This way there is no stress inflicted by changes in water
conditions and foods. I have a friend some distance away with vastly
different water chemistry. We both do fairly well with Nothos. We have
exchanged Nothos from time to time. When he gets mine they usually do fine.
But I have not yet succeeded at getting one of his to successfully adapt to
my tanks. Despite the fact that I usually get them hand delivered and they
are usually in exelent shape when I get them. Most either will not eat or
just sicken and die. I don't know if it is a difference in foods, water
conditions, temperature or just lattatude. I realize that my evidence is
anicdotal but I have also seen it with other people too.
Despite our differing opinions regarding the likelyhood of the fish's
survival, I am not sure that we disagree that it would be better to just
ship eggs.
Best regards,
-RJ-
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-killietalk at aka_org [mailto:owner-killietalk at aka_org]On
Behalf Of Karl Doering
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 8:34 AM
To: killietalk at aka_org
Subject: Re: Shipping fishes
RJ What part of Germany did they collect the rachovi.You have some
interesting theorys on Nothobranchius .I've had notho in a bag over a month
lived & reproduced .The only thing that keeps the fish from reproducing is
the homosapien factor----- Original Message -----
From: "-RJ-" <TranquilityBase at NetZero_Net>
To: <killietalk at aka_org>
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2001 5:54 AM
Subject: RE: Shipping fishes
> I strongly recommend shipping Notho eggs rather than fish. The fish are
> relatively sensitive to prolonged periods without food. They also are not
> real fond of water condition changes. As the incubation time is several
> months there is no real rush as long as they are kept reasonably warm. I
> should have some GUE eggs on hand if you are interested. I should be able
to
> ship in about another two weeks or so. (as soon as the weather warms up)
By
> the way, you might want to check with your local customs department about
> the import of fish or eggs before you lose them in transit. I might even
> have some extra RAC, DKG eggs by them.
>
> By the way I did get some N. Ugandensis from Holland which survived a
> similar trip. The female never started eating again and died within two
> weeks. With Nothos the question is not whether they will get there alive,
> but rather whether they will ever start to eat once they get there.
> Stressed Nothos are also super sensitive to velvet and an assortment of
> other illnesses.
>
> Let me know off list if you are interested.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> -RJ-
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-killietalk at aka_org [mailto:owner-killietalk at aka_org]On
> Behalf Of cjpgomes at uol_com.br
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 4:57 AM
> To: killietalk at aka_org
> Subject: Shipping fishes
>
>
> I apologize to repeat a question I know was posted some times ago. But, I
> has just finished the setup of a new tank and I'd like to have some Nothos
> and this fishes are not commom or easy to find at Brazilian aquarium
stores.
>
> Does anyone have shipped or received fishes that had flight over the ocean
> for 12 hours and had been bagged for 2 or 3 days? (my last FEDEX express
> order - a book - take 4 days to arrive). Will the fishes survive? What
about
> eggs?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carlos
> ps.: Falcão, if I'm not wrong you had this experience. I apologize have
not
> sent a mail for you, but my micro is out of service and in this one I
don't
> have your e-mail. Cheers.
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