RJ- I'd be interested in a pair when the weather gets better (which will be somewhat slow here in western NY- where are you located???) Let me know how you'd want to do this. Burt Gorton 47 Pine Brook Circle Penfield, NY 14526 email: misajegar at aol_com --------------- See http://www.aka.org/AKA/subkillietalk.html to unsubscribe