I probably qualify as an old F@rt. I'm 52, have kept fish since 1956, have bred hundreds of species, including cichlids, anabantoides, killies, livebearers, etc... I was in the Chicago club back in the 1970s.... yeah, I'll be there. Funny.... After all this time, this will be my first convention. <<** Larry **>> --------------- See http://www.aka.org/AKA/subkillietalk.html to unsubscribe